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4406mopar 11-24-2016 08:32 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
No sweat, the whining is really getting old! LOL

Don Kennedy 11-25-2016 01:00 AM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 520714)
All that we've been doing for years is "bracket racing".
I'm OK with 1 pound weight breaks if that makes you feel better but we'll still be "bracket racing".

Billy Bracket racing ? I did not know Bracket racing had Specs for engines? weight rules? no delay devices ,and a bracket car could set the national record and they have indexs < yup I guess we are bracket racing lol just having some fun full of turkey.
lol:D

Hacksaw 11-25-2016 10:43 AM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Anybody else remember when NHRA let the Divisions decide by vote if electronics would be legal to use in bracket classes? All were in favor except Div. #1. Sure wasn't a level playing field when meeting up with Div. #3 guys. I think it was like two years before they changed it to match.

Mile High 11-25-2016 10:57 AM

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Defining bracket racing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket_racing

This is from Wikipedia.


Dial-in[edit]
Each car chooses a dial-in time before the race, predicting the elapsed time the driver estimates it will take his or her car to cross the finish line. This is usually displayed on one or more windows so the starter can adjust the "christmas tree" starting lights accordingly. The slower car in the race is given the green light before the faster car by a margin of the difference between their two dial-in times.

In principle, if both drivers have equal reaction times and their cars run exactly their posted dial-ins, both cars should cross the finish line at precisely the same time. In reality, this is an extremely rare occurrence. Measuring devices both at the start and at the end of the track post times down to 1/100000 of a second (0.00001s precision), which makes tied races almost impossible.

Some forms of bracket racing (NHRA Competition Eliminator, NHRA Stock groups) have cars classified by type, and the dial-in time is based on the type of car that is entered.

Jeff

Andys dad 11-25-2016 11:54 AM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
No one ever said why it would not be fair to have both cars loose. You both screwed up - simple - you both loose - it should not be who screwed up the least.


IMHO

Ron

Pedigo Perf 11-25-2016 12:21 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad (Post 520753)
No one ever said why it would not be fair to have both cars loose. You both screwed up - simple - you both loose - it should not be who screwed up the least.


Because it is a competition, one wins and one loses.

Sorry I forgot I was D5

Ron Ortiz 11-25-2016 01:04 PM

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You all crack me up. Stock Eliminator is not stock anymore. You all cried and whined for rule changes through out the last 40 years, just a bunch of whiners and cry babies. Now there is a new possible rule and it seems that only the fast people are bitchin. Why don't you all just race and shut the hell up. If NHRA wants a change they will do it, they do not need your approval and sure as heck they do not listen to your opinions. What used to be the fast guys are not anymore with the newer cars. Some of you whiners are just loaded with cash and don't have a clue anyway. You talk about a performance based category and then turn around and try to change things to fit your own agenda. Bunch of kittens.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA take your ball and go home

Don Kennedy 11-25-2016 01:18 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 520757)
You all crack me up. Stock Eliminator is not stock anymore. You all cried and whined for rule changes through out the last 40 years, just a bunch of whiners and cry babies. Now there is a new possible rule and it seems that only the fast people are bitchin. Why don't you all just race and shut the hell up. If NHRA wants a change they will do it, they do not need your approval and sure as heck they do not listen to your opinions. What used to be the fast guys are not anymore with the newer cars. Some of you whiners are just loaded with cash and don't have a clue anyway. You talk about a performance based category and then turn around and try to change things to fit your own agenda. Bunch of kittens.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA take your ball and go home


Ron. Ron , I have not seen any whiner or criers . Just racers speaking up for their own agenda which is normal in my world

FireSale 11-25-2016 01:38 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jody Lang (Post 520730)
(...edit....) For years I've never understood why it didn't fall under the "first or worst" rule.

As I understand it, "first" applied if both cars broke the same rule like red light or center line and "worst" applied if two different rules were broken in the same pass like red lighting against a CJ that crosses the center line. Center line is the "worse" infraction so red light wins.

As a bracket rookie working to be a GT/MA rookie, I reiterate my support for TruStart.

Mickey Whaley 11-25-2016 02:02 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 520761)
As I understand it, "first" applied if both cars broke the same rule like red light or center line and "worst" applied if two different rules were broken in the same pass like red lighting against a CJ that crosses the center line. Center line is the "worse" infraction so red light wins.

As a bracket rookie working to be a GT/MA rookie, I reiterate my support for TruStart.

And you are correct sorry I am div 2


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