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Aero Space with aluminum drums rear.

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Who did your shocks?

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Santhuff Shocks with Gary Jennings getting them adjusted on the dyno to a starting point for on track testing.

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Race Ramps to the rescue. I did all measurements hit the calculate button and got the answer I did not expect. Answer no ramps needed it loaded fine with the big front tires. That will pay for most of a drum of fuel. Verifying that internal data recorder works and downloads. The guy on B.C. comics, Thor, would be so proud!

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I think I'm almost done and ready to test and get the car to go A to B. It's been a long time coming!

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Man, I'm ready to see some action
Hope your hard work pays off

May I ask what you are hoping for performance wise?

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What ever the car will do and go straight. Have everything work without any glitches. If glitches do appear try to solve them ourselves without taking time from someone else's day.

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Yesterday Dumbo took flight. It was not pretty most of the time, but no crashes or near misses. The five people crew consisted of team leader Gary Jennings, wiring wizard Bob Toy, do whatever needs doing Chris Hill, the lady in charge of the pits Patsy Hill, and me the driver. Our "Phone A Friend's" were Randy and Cooter. I can't thank everyone enough!

What we did is generate a laundry list of what we know and think needs to be done to help it be competitive in class. As it is today we would just be in the way. I am a Class racer, after class then I want to win the race.

The day would have went much better if the driver didn't screwup, seems like every pass. After driving the Cuda for years it was hard not to shift Dumbo early.

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Dumbo was able to run the index 1/8 mile before the end of the day. The Cuda took over a year to hit the IHRA 1/8 mile index.

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Photos would be nice......

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FS/C?

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FS/C if I can get the current Champ to drive. Butt with my diminutive frame I will race it as a FS/D.

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I've been working on pest control, the little bugs that keep popping up in different areas. I'm starting to have a little confidence in changing stuff inside the ECU, again thanks to Cooter, Randy, and David. The root of my problems with the car is my total absence of computer skills.

So if we finally get the car to the national event class level please understand it was not me that did it. It was all the smart people that helped.

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Grunt work today, master cylinder is bypassing internally. Just another day at the office.

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New master cylinder installed, blead, and now I think I have brakes. I'm getting one issue solved at a time, with help of course. I think it will be a good car if a few more bugs are removed.
I dropped the oil out for a look see, Zero Water, YES!
Still to do: Lighted switches to illuminate, Move some wires for easier access, Change converters, add second return spring, Headers, Testing, Quick access tool kit, and other stuff

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Larry,
Do you test at Beacon Dragway?

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.......sometimes it's a good track!

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I think after two years and 74 days, if everything goes well, the car should be ready to go don the track with everything working, I hope. I am so ready to see its first long track time ticket.

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The car came with two converters and for the first testing of the car I chose my backup converter for the pink car. I did find out what does't work. After finding out about the converters from the manufacture I chose "B" , "A " did not work, and "C" is suppose to be the loosest.

Incoming QC on "B":
In one threaded hole the treads are almost gone, but will still take the torque. The other three bolt holes are good. Check bolt circle against a factory and certified flexplate only three of the four will install. Odd man out was the bad hole. Previously marked on ring gear are are indicator readings -0.010 to +0.011. This is not what you want to see. The more I inspect the greater the disappointment. The best I can tell is the attachment bolt circle and the snout are not concentric and are off approximately .024". The snout showed signs of fretting on the location bore on the back I.D. of the crank. The fret mark supported my discovered offset. I bet the misalignment had to bad for the pump and the front bushing.

Incoming QC on "C"
It looked much better. All bolts installed on test flexplate with only a .005" diameter difference from snout to flexplate clearance side to side. Only minor fretting on snout. Install converter in trans, install trans, install three converter bolts and the fourth will not start. Patsy calls me to supper and I end my day. Thank goodness!

I learned a lot but did not reach my goal. I may or may not get it done today, but at 2:30 PM CDT we are watching the NASCAR race.

Y'all stay safe

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I imagine you've tried to rotate the converter?

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On a Mopar it will only bolt up one way without a lot of clearance

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what transmission are you using?on my 904 the converter has to be clocked to match the flex plate,, gmonde

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SB 727, all converters I have seen are the same for the B, RB, and SB 727

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Sounds like the holes in the flexplate are off, check that?

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I had the same issue. Before installing the 904 in my Challenger, I bench checked and marked the flexplate and converter to make sure the bolts would line up. Everything lined up perfect and bolted together. Once I bolted the flexplate to the crank and installed the transmission, the one odd bolt was extremely hard to get started. I think the process of torqueing the flexplate distorts it enough that the bolts are all hard to install.

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Hacksaw

I would normally agree but Brand "X" converter came out and Brand "Y" will not bolt up. Just a guess Brand "Y" might be the problem. But it will be installed.

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I don't know squat about Mopars but I ran into a FFFord once where the snout on the converter was just a tad too long for the back of the crank. It was just enough that you could bolt up the converter with no (noticeable) problem but it wasn't happy.

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A little toy airplane technology and all is good. Thanks everyone for the comebacks and text. Toy Airplane Technology is a Dremel Tool or 5 Minute Epoxy.

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Still to do: change oil and filter, install drive shaft, install passenger's seat, check logging graph, top off trans fluid, hook up auto shift, and test drive.

I did get to see all of the NASCAR race

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Spoke with Brand "Y" converter maker and said they would gladly check it over and report. I expected nothing less from a quality company.

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I got a few wires uncrossed and stuff started to work. Loading up today for testing tomorrow. I hope the changes will improve the car.

The down side of a new metric / standard car is the addition of the extra tools in the trailer. Don't forget the VO Meter, test light, soldering gun and rosin core solder, connectors, and picks. And the most important tool, the wiring diagram.

I think I'm ready

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Good luck to you sir.

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Since everything was falling into place and I was ahead of my timeline, checking the valve lash was a great idea. Working on the Hemi on the dyno is fun, in the car, as Dan would say, not so much. I only had to adjust two valves .001- .002 loose. It only took a quick 180 minutes plus, a half of a box of bandaids and every tool in the box and then some.

So now I'm up early tring to makeup for lost time. Back to work!

Thanks Keith

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Pictures!!!!

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Most important thing is a laptop, lol.

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I can definitely identify with the bandaids, young whippersnappers have no idea how thin your skin gets as you “mature”. I can hardly put gas in the car without bruising and/or bleeding. Swapping converters requires a transfusion....well, maybe not that bad but I definitely take a box of bandaids to the track and there’s a big box in the garage. Look forward to seeing the car soon, hope the testing goes well.

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Jim after being in business for years I'm pretty thick skinned, but old scar tissue is no match for razor sharp edges of plastic and steel. Testing this past weekend didn't go well.

Today is new and Dumbo is being fitted for new pipes, life is good.

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Larry,

Are you coming to Tulsa?

Bill Lamb

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Atlanta or Tulsa will depend on the weather. It will be a little farther to Tulsa from Ohio than Commerce Ga.

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Yes but in Tulsa you don't have to drive through Atlanta!