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Dick Butler 04-09-2008 12:27 PM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
One of the problems is there is nothing to gain by running FULL out. No big prizes, No one in class to beat.Maybe this is the time to re mention there are too manyClasses allowing people to HIDE bogus combos from the AHFS.
IF classes were condensed to 1/2 the current number this would put people together. If MONEY were at stake for class or heads up in eliminator occurred more often this would PUSH people into running full out THEN more accurate idea of potential performance would be shown. This would work with current AHFS.(Still needs et changed DOWN)(and INDEX changes)
MAKE CLASS a challenge and a goal for people to appreciate winning again and it will help. Speed up the hp change by AHFS but allow soft changes to continue to not over do the adjusting. Consider corrected altitude figures.

Ron Ortiz 04-09-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
Forget the trigger, eliminate it. Let fast cars go fast, it's up th the sanctioning body to take a look at who might need it, randomly. They already do it.
If you want to see how fast they really are just record all the incremental times. If your going to sand bag then you're going to have to do it the entire run.
Incremental times will fix this mess real fast.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA tick tock

SSDiv6 04-09-2008 01:19 PM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
Good 'Ol Farmer, in the early days, had his own computer handy for factoring... an ET vs Weight slide rule style calculator...probably a Moroso brand :)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...6L._SS500_.jpg

SS Engine Guy 04-09-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lca1971 (Post 65222)
SS Engine Guy,

. I saw in one of your post that you wanted to allow boosted cars in the mix! To bring in youner guy's.

Nope, wasn't me.

lca1971 04-10-2008 12:37 AM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
Sorry for the mistake!

Chris

Lynn A McCarty 04-10-2008 10:46 AM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 65276)
Good 'Ol Farmer, in the early days, had his own computer handy for factoring... an ET vs Weight slide rule style calculator...probably a Moroso brand :)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...6L._SS500_.jpg


This method would work, but you cant penalize a guy for going fast. You should only penalize an engine if the average of everyone using that combo goes fast. For example, if the 10 slowest guys go 3 tenths faster than the 10 slowest guys of another combo, then that tells you more. Looking at one engine with a trigger method destroys class racing.

It tells you nothing unless you consider the air quality. He also needed a weather station.

SSDiv6 04-10-2008 11:29 AM

Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynn A McCarty (Post 65442)
This method would work, but you cant penalize a guy for going fast. You should only penalize an engine if the average of everyone using that combo goes fast. For example, if the 10 slowest guys go 3 tenths faster than the 10 slowest guys of another combo, then that tells you more. Looking at one engine with a trigger method destroys class racing.

It tells you nothing unless you consider the air quality. He also needed a weather station.

Lynn, many of us remember they way farnmer did things...although many times it was not pretty, he seemed fair and there was not the issues we have today with the factoring. Do not get me wrong, with all the new technology and science today, the problem can be solved with a computer program.


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