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If i were able to unload , into the garage without starting, i would probably still have my open trailer...but, you cant build a garage for 6k, so thats the way i justified it... and it does make racing a little easier, as you can keep everything in the trailer, that you might need...but, i miss the 'thumbs up' as people go by...

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Just the opposite for me Brent...I'm not going to buy another truck that would pull an enclosed trailer hehe. :p

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I am new to class racing, as my '69 Camaro G/SA has only been parked in my garage for just over a week, but I tow on an open trailer with a 2011 Ram regular cab, short box, 4x4.

I had a choice of buying an enclosed trailer this year or buying the above car, which I looked at a year ago and was out of my budget at the time.

I chose to buy an open trailer and use the difference to be able to afford the car.

I did buy smart enough that the loaded trailer will fit in my garage, but only with 8 inches to spare.

I know it has been discussed on this site before, but towing a race on an open trailer is just cool.

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Yup, I agree ... hopefully see you on HWY 401 sometime. I tow my Monza on an open trailer behind my Suburban. Nice to get some thumbs up reactions as we travel.
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Due to the lackluster performance of the 327 I decided to pull it out of the car yesterday. Just before stripping it down I did a compression test on it and found cranking psi of 100# on one side of the engine and 150# on the opposite side. It was only then that my partner volunteered the information that he had timing issues with it when it was in the street Nova...my bet is every valve in the engine is burnt lol. Amazing it could muster a 7.43 in it's condition...I'm guessing a solid 6.90 pass or better once it is sealed properly.

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I bought an '88 GMC Dually and done some things to it, converted to carb, new tires, all new hoses, driveshaft, brakes ,timing chain, complete tune up, exhaust, used camper shell, water pump, seriviced trans and installed cooler...i have about 5k in it, gets about 8mpg...but its paid for... and the trailer basically is, too.. so my rig is pretty cheap, not necessarily cheap to operate, but since there is no payment, and i usually dont travel far, its pretty good. Although, i miss the 14mpg, towing with 1/2 ton 4wd and open trailer...hehe

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check it out...the inside of the engine is as clean as the outside of the truck...it was used to tow a Comp Elim car , back in late '80s to '96... I bought it in Jan 2012 after 2nd owner had only put 20,000 miles on it, since '96...it has 146,000-147,000 now...ive put about 7k of those miles on it.

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That's a great looking truck Brent. We rode up to Clarksville Saturday morning before going to the track to look at a 1989 Chevy 3+3 dually that was for sale. It had a terrific body, but the 454 was missing most of the emissions hardware...had to decline as it would have taken a chunk of change to put it back into compliance assuming I could locate all the pieces.

Back to the 327 - Sure enough nearly all the valves in both heads were leakers...that will be remedied Wednesday. Will do a leak down on all cylinders before it goes back in the car, but I suspect all will be acceptable as the engine only has around 100 miles total since it's build. Will check again once running and can build a little heat in it.

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Where is the "Like" button?
That is a very nice tow rig.

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Thanks Thomas... it is now carbureted and gets about 8mpg, and runs way better than it did with TBI...

Cant wait to hear how Rich's car runs, with valves sealed up...

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Oh, I want so bad...somebody slap me back into reality please. :p

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Rich, ramp trucks are 'way cool. There's one on ebay right now that would look pretty sweet with your Camaro on it. -Al

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-C-...US_Cars_Trucks

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RAMP TRUCKS RULE !!!

Do it !

Do it !

Do it ! :D


(I know, I'm not helping) :)

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I shot the fellow with the ramp truck an email asking the current mileage on the engine...it's a '96 Turbo Cummings.

Edit: He replied with 130,000 miles...calling in the morning.

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Got up this morning and just could'nt enthuse myself to drive four hours to go look at the truck. It appears to be a good one, but heck I could buy a complete Jericho set-up for the car for $7500. If it were closer I might have talked myself in to it. Here is the ad if anyone else wants to bite... http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4691276882.html

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That looks like a heck of a truck... That thing wouldnt even know your car was on it! My grandpa(RIP) installed one , in a '79 F350 Ford, single cab, long bed...wasnt a dually... it was 359 cube Cummins TUrbo...That is the meanest truck i have ever seen...it would pull 2 tractors on a 36+ foot gooseneck trailer, like it was nothing.... and it was awesome on fuel... around 20mpg.....

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Finally got the 327 sorted out...not a bad little motor considering it was built for the street.

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After clicking off a string of 7.36 time slips during time trials this evening I naturally put a 7.36 dial on the car for first round of eliminations. For some unknown reason it took a voodoo turn and dropped two numbers in 60' and broke out with a 7.34 on the brakes killing 2mph from the previous time trial run...who knows what mph I really killed. Partner was convinced it would repeat so he bought back in. I was not convinced at all especially when he wanted a 7.32 on the glass for second round, but it was his money so I obliged. Went red and ran it out just like a trial and it went right back to where it had been all afternoon with a 7.36 . One of these days maybe he will start listening to the driver lol.

The car just doesnt leave hard like it used to and I have yet to figure out why. Maybe by the time I get the other motor together this spring I will have found something. Good consistent car except for that one fluke run.

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Going to look like Darth Vader in the engine bay lol...

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Gonna be cool, Rich... Cant wait to see how revamped engine does...

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Rich , did you make that panel, where your heater controls, and radio were? Or did you buy it? Im gonna take my radio out, and can buy a delete plate, but would consider removing the heater controls, too, if i can make that area look as good as yours does....http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psd9a213c8.jpg

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We made ours BUT contact
JOHNS CLASSIC CARS
64 HUNTER RD
DOUGLASVILLE, GA
30134
WWW. JOHNSCLASSICCARS.COM
800-335-4571
Brett--- you want GM Restoration parts # CDBC67DA Johns sells it for $59.00 its the full panel radio & heater delete plate-- others may have a better price but at least ya got the part number --FED 387

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Got the delete panel at Camaro Central Brent... http://www.camarocentral.com/1967_19...p/das-1011.htm

Good news...the engine is going back together Christmas day. :)

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Appreciate the updates on both builds.

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Guys, the rulebook states, about three times, heater controls must remain in dash.

There were some GM cars made that were heater delete.
A friend had a 68 Chevelle with NO factory heater or defroster ,that he had shipped back here from Hawaii when he got out of the Army... So that would be your point of defense.

There are a few ounces worth of switches and levers that can be trimmed off the back side of the control panel.

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Heater delete was an option in 1967 for the Camaro (H designation on the trim tag). Fed mandated a defroster in 1968.

Brent - Looks like the delete option carried over to Firebirds as well ( K designation on the trim tag). If you claimed as a 1967 you would be legal.

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So a '68 couldnt have been ordered without a heater? Mark, i saw that in the rules, that heater controls had to stay in the dash... but, i havent done the research on whether it was legal or not, to do as Rich's car has been done.

I didnt figure there was alot of weight there... radio is definitely comin out...im sure its worth atleast .0001 hehe

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Brent - My research showed that beginning in 1968 all cars were federally mandated to have at minimum a defroster.

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Awesome about your engine! Im working on gettin a good lightened 350 trans( cant afford a 200 just yet), and this is more about weight, than anything. And got a bigger cam, goin in, sometime after i get trans in, and make some solid passes... I hope to see some 11teens by end of season, crossing fingers! hehe

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Probably not that easy for Brent. I believe there would be a door change with vent windows and a cylinder head change also. To claim his car as a 67. Tony

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Yeah, thats right..its not happening...hehe

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Merry Christmas to all! Just beginning to put the engine back together this X-mas eve...should have it finished by tm afternoon barring any complications. I need the room to begin on the Mustang 302.

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Merry Christmas Rich! Hope you find some HP in that thing...but not too much, i wanna outrun you in 2015...hehe

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I'll probably find a little Brent, but it still won't set the world on fire. I'm not touching the heads. ;)

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Merry Christmas to you guys. I've really enjoyed the build threads.

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Merry Christmas Tom! Rich, im sure you'll find more... Im just hoping to go better than 11.20s , by season's end... My main 2 changes will be transmission and cam/lifters...and some weight management.... It'll be interesting to see where we both land... I may have to have my converter restalled, if cam is a tad big...time will tell...

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Rich, I hope your package arrived okay. -Al

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Oh yes Al...you didnt get my message? These will work just dandy I'm sure. :)

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Last minute change...found I had a small journal crank after ordering rods. Found a large journal crank local on the cheap already prepped for a Stocker so all is well.

My first attempt at a crank scraper...if I did it wrong I'm sure I will hear about it soon enough. I made plenty of clearance with a bench/die grinder then used the metal for a template on some .030 graphite filled teflon sheet.

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This will be a first for me...can't wait to give it a workout.

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Interesting piece of engineering. I like the physics incorporated into the design of these things. What is the distance from the axle mount to the pivot wheel as measured in a line on the floor? I'm wondering if this will fit my 68 Mustang. Speaking of, is this for the Camaro or Mustang?

Dale