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Approximately 22.5" Dale. This is for the Camaro with a experimental engine installed...not enough hp in the Stocker engine to warrant it lol.

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Get some pics of the car in action with it :)

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Calverts?

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Yes. http://www.classracer.com/classforum...ad.php?t=56758

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Tm morning will be dedicated to getting the bar installed...think I have all the parts needed on hand.

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Not running Stock this year? WHat engine you puttin' in it?

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Stocker motor will go back in later in the season. There is a 600+ hp small block in it now...taking it to the Hot Rod Reunion in Bowling Green this summer. I'll be spending time getting the Mustang sorted out.

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Rich, sorry to hear you're not going out with the stocker motor. It would have been nice to see the improvement after the freshen up. -Al

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Cut me just a little slack guys...I have a partner in this car and he has been itching to try this. Figure I owe him a little experimental time. No worry, we will get back to Stocker trim before the end of the season.

The Calvert bar was a pita to initially set up for welding. The bars, floor jacks, lumber and the car being on the floor made it interesting to say the least. I must have made 150 measurements before the first tack weld was made...after that we were able to put the car in the air to fully weld the brackets. All that is needed now is a little TnT time to see if this 383 really has 600 hp or more.

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Rich, have been following your build, car is very nice. We are slanted towards the 1st gen Camaro and yours is one of the cleanest examples, good luck on the T/T with the 383. Tony Tosto #3050 B/S

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Do you have the a dyno sheet on the 383 ? Great combo- torque monster that likes to rev.

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No dyno on this motor, but this same combo has been built many times in our area with the same components. They say expect hp numbers between 600-700. Matt's Speed Shop (formerly Mike's Speed Shop) in Murfreesboro TN assembled the engine.

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Good to hear on the Stocker motor, Rich. Keep us posted. -Al

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The wheelie bar looks great on the car !

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Took the Camaro to US43 today to try to sort the carb issues my partner has been having. Seems no matter what he tried there was a huge hole/bog right at the hit (he has tried three different carbs on this car). I had no hands on this engine build so I'm completely in the dark as to what was done internally. It sure does act as if the valve timing events are askew...labors to start no matter where the distributor is turned.

Anyway, I decided to see if it would even go down the track and took it to the lanes. Did my normal burnout procedure then staged the car noticing nothing unusual. At the hit the rpm's went up but the car did not react...like it was in neutral or something. Car pulls normal in second, third and reverse. First gear you can barely feel an attempt to pull. I'm thinking something inside the transmission...don't know if a convertor could exhibit this symptom in first gear only. I'll have to pull it out and take it to Thomas to find out what went wrong. Fluid level was good and I re-checked the cable adjustment. Here is a very short clip of the attempted pass...

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When I returned to the trailer after that fiasco my partner said he was done with the car lol. Guess I'm on my own with this one hehe. I'll pull everything and put the Stocker engine back in soon. Need to get the trans to Arnett and have it checked out. I'll open my partner's engine on the stand and try to discern what is going on with that.

Back to the shop... :p

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Brad Paisley needs to write a song about this. "Back to the Shop..."?

I took my Camaro out to the track
Did my burn out and it sure felt fast
Revved her up - she sounded fine
Dropped the hammer........
Back to the shop

Sorry...

Dale

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Yes, it was disappointing to say the least. It was very odd in that I felt no hit, lurch or irregular sounds. The drag genie just walked up to the car and said "request for first gear denied" lol. Sitting here drinking my coffee contemplating driving over to the shop and pulling the trans right now. Any possibility a convertor would not pull in first gear but appear fine in all others?

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Actually, you did OK.

Saturday at the Pacific Raceway TnT a bracket Mustang vanished into a huge cloud of white smoke at the top end (water hose burst and sprayed the engine), a SuperStreet car dumped the motor in the traps and a Super Stock Fairlane did the same. Then there was the guy in a Honda who twisted his rear end around and several bad *** cars that couldn't make it to the 1/8 mile mark. I'll leave the Hello Kitty Jr. dragster out of this. Kids get a break from me.

Drag Genie. I like that.

Dale

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No

Low roller clutch (sprag) not holding.

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Are you saying it is more likely in the trans or convertor?

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Back of the trans...Low roller sprag broken ...or more

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That sprag is the weak point of a 200. As long as you don't back up hard or up a big incline or use low gear in the pits or in the water box it lives very well. The water box may be the worst. It is a little tricky to do a burnout starting out in second, but 200's live very well if you take care of them. I send mine back to be freshened at 200-250 runs because I feel guilty. Paul Forte at Turbo Action builds an amazing transmission.

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So you say using first to begin the burnout might be unwise with these 200's? I could easily adjust my procedure if that is the case. I've been told by several Stock racers I'm not near as hard on the car doing burnouts as they are and it appears they use first gear also.

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When I raced my LT-1 Firebird Stocker I manually shifted it and did burnouts starting in second gear and quickly shifting to third as soon as the tires spun. A local redid that trans that came with the car when I bought it as a roller. Trans never failed but case cracked for the next owner. 2.75 first gear 200 Trans

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Just talked to Thomas and he agreed it was weird as well. I'll pull it and haul it to him shortly. ;)

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Taking the trans to Thomas this week. Barring any problems the freshened Stocker engine is going back in the car and I will be at Bowling Green this Sunday for the first Combo race this year. :)

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you gonna try to make Indy, May1-3? Sorry you had some issues... im goin for testing/racing this Saturday...

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What's the entry for a combo race? Im considering coming down to that, if my track cant open... we've had so much rain, lately, the pits are too soggy... I think my car will run, but have no idea...hehe Its about 4 1/2-5 hrs tow...

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If I remember correctly it's $50 total Brent. If Thomas is able to work me in by Friday I'll do my best to have everything together for Sunday. Like you I will be coming near blind as to how the engine will perform.

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IF my home track is too soggy, i may be able to go to INDY on Sunday, so not sure if i will make the tow...but im still thinkn about it... Is Bowling Green under water?? Ive heard it can flood out there...

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Acres of pavement Brent...you won't be anywhere near grass unless you choose to do so.

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yea, its been a few years since ive been there... I like it there, though...
If i dont show up this weekend, i would like to come down there toward Fall, after the Nats... is there another combo race after the Nats?

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Here you go Brent - http://www.beechbend.com/dragschedule.htm

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No transmission to go with so no racing this weekend. I do have the new bullet primed and ready to drop in tm. I need to fabricate a new alternator bracket soon...never have been satisfied with the fit of the current setup. Pay no attention to my rat nest garage. :o

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Stocker engine back in the bay where it belongs. Notice was served today that nothing further goes into the Camaro that is not Stock Eliminator oriented. Partner's string of failed experiments has cost me valuable time and the inability to attend the opening race of the season...this won't happen again. If he wants to play I'll buy him an old SS or GT big tire roller if need be.

Any suggestions or links to a good alternator bracket welcomed before I try whittling one out myself.

Thanks to Alan Nyhus for those Dynatech headers. I don't know how they will perform, but they are hands down the best fitting headers I have ever owned. Can get a socket or box-end wrench on every bolt save one behind number one cylinder.

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Rich,
I have used numerous brackets from Alan Grove
http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/

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Thanks Glenn - I like the looks of that 209L...appears it will clear the Camaro saddle fine, but I will need to check the alternator size.

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Rich, glad you're happy with the headers. Short of making the leap to a set of 3K+ custom stainless tri-Y or step headers, the Dynatechs and Schoenfelds offer darn good bang for the buck.

For an alternator bracket, I bolted a tab to the subframe 'lip' and bolted a shortened stock alternator adjuster bracket to that. The power wire is insulated with1/4" vacuum tubing and goes through the subframe holes to the battery side. It's low, out of the way and low buck.

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I had not considered that Alan...I'll give it a look see. :)

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I see we have similar thoughts, with different approaches, on crankcase pressure.......;) :)