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Mr belvedere 03-03-2014 10:37 PM

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bob george 03-13-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr belvedere (Post 422919)
I have seen first hand what some did to these cars and its not good ,everything was cut out and hacked off makes me sick:eek:

It's what we did back in the day.If I told you how many Hemi and wedge cars/parts we cut up or scrapped back the day you would hang me.I recall giving rolling bodys away and even abandoning a aluminium 63 max-wedge in a field in Marion Illinois.No one had a crystal ball.

a990hemi 03-13-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bob george (Post 424269)
It's what we did back in the day.If I told you how many Hemi and wedge cars/parts we cut up or scrapped back the day you would hang me.I recall giving rolling bodys away and even abandoning a aluminium 63 max-wedge in a field in Marion Illinois.No one had a crystal ball.

One must realize that drag racing is no fun unless you win occasionally. Out of date race parts are usually given away or discarded if no one wants them. Technologies were changing so rapidly from say '65 to '75 that what might have been a record holding class car would not even make a decent bracket car some 10 years later. I too wish I could've scored a genuine crystal ball bitd so I might have been able to stash away some treasure for the future.

bob george 03-13-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 424273)
One must realize that drag racing is no fun unless you win occasionally. Out of date race parts are usually given away or discarded if no one wants them. Technologies were changing so rapidly from say '65 to '75 that what might have been a record holding class car would not even make a decent bracket car some 10 years later. I too wish I could've scored a genuine crystal ball bitd so I might have been able to stash away some treasure for the future.


It was a constant struggle to gain the advantage or pick up a few bucks winning or match racing.The sport was evolving so quickly in the 60s and 70s and was a popular spectater sport to watch.We didn't have the techonolgy that is available in later years and what we have now.We didn't have a crystal ball but have memories of the beginning of an era that we may never experience again.
Though it is too costly for most today,the yesterdays were priceless.

Steve1118 03-13-2014 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr belvedere (Post 422919)
I have seen first hand what some did to these cars and its not good ,everything was cut out and hacked off makes me sick:eek:

Bob is so right....back then you didn't even think about it. You just cut and hacked, made it fit, used it up, wore it out, and then went and got another one. There was tons of stuff around, and no one gave any thought about anything being a "collector piece". To me it's amazing that so many did survive, and today most look better than they did when they were raced initially. Much better.

On a different note, the thing I like most about Nostalgia racing today is that it created a use for a lot of the obsolete stuff floating around. A lot of it is very serviceable, but has been technologically (?) passed by for class racing, and those of a more serious bent. I know that is what I do....my dear friend Bob George told me I'm a dinosaur....he's right. But, I'm still having some fun, I've finally realized that this isn't a money making deal.

Charlie A 03-13-2014 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bob george (Post 424280)
It was a constant struggle to gain the advantage or pick up a few bucks winning or match racing.The sport was evolving so quickly in the 60s and 70s and was a popular spectater sport to watch.We didn't have the techonolgy that is available in later years and what we have now.We didn't have a crystal ball but have memories of the beginning of an era that we may never experience again.
Though it is too costly for most today,the yesterdays were priceless.

I cannot overstate the value of the memories that those like yourself contribute to this and any other forum dealing with the history of the sport.
They NEED to be recorded somewhere. Here, other web sites, books.
Whatever media form possible.
Thank you for taking the time to share.
And.......feel free to add some more memories, anytime. :)

a990hemi 03-13-2014 02:14 PM

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My grandfather used to volunteer his time watching over the local garbage dump since he liked shooting the breeze with the farmers and townspeople who'd dump their stuff there. One day when I was a boy, the entire aluminum front end from this very car was thrown into the aluminum pile there. Steve Link bracket raced the car at Great Lakes Dragway back in the 70s, and unfortunately stuffed the front end into the guard rail. The aluminum bodywork was badly wrinkled, but repairable by todays standards. But why go through all of that trouble when new steel panels could still be had at the local Chrysler dealership which his family just happened to own?

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...psaebbfe24.jpg

rickseeman 03-14-2014 11:39 AM

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Anybody know where this one is now? Rick 501-519-7425 Thankshttp://www.vibratoryfinishing.com/hemilite.jpg

bob george 03-19-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rickseeman (Post 424440)
Anybody know where this one is now? Rick 501-519-7425 Thankshttp://www.vibratoryfinishing.com/hemilite.jpg


It is rumored to be in Canada and is up for sale for $55,000.No one will verify it's history.

mopar68 05-10-2015 03:36 PM

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This photo dates to late 1969. We know this because this is the ’65 Plymouth Super Stocker that Arlen Vanke built with one purpose in mind—to smoke the SS/C record, where Bill Jenkins and the Chevy guys were enjoying a cushioned index going toward the 1969 World Finals in Dallas. Since the index was based on the current class record, Akron Arlen put this car together quickly—with some factory help, took it to the last divisional race of the year at National Trail Raceway in Columbus, Ohio, and reset the record in a Sunday evening final-round charge (after missing a chance during the record runs on Saturday). He hammered the number so hard that the ZL1 cars could not even qualify at Dallas the next month. He is seen here at St. Thomas, Ontario, soon after.

http://107.imagebam.com/download/q9f...vanke_ss-c.jpg

Alex Polewik 08-20-2015 10:40 AM

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Anyone have any idea what race track this is? Also anybody remember Steve Maurasic or Super Commando? Not sure yet but think this is the 5&50 sometime in late 60's early 70's.

I'm trying to track history of the 65 5&50 between Jack Werst and when Don West(bechtelsville, pa) got it. Ken Montgomery got it from Don.

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...pslwsnktwq.jpg

Thanks!!!

Alex Polewik 08-20-2015 10:45 AM

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Here's a another picture I believe is earlier. Anyone have a idea on the dragstrip or who Johnny White was?

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps8pz95z68.jpg

Alex Polewik 08-20-2015 10:51 AM

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Car today...

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...psv2g0bpzh.jpg

Liteweight 08-20-2015 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex Polewik (Post 479731)

Looking real good Alex!!!. Is it faster than.................... ? ;)

liteweight

Alex Polewik 08-20-2015 11:53 AM

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Too funny Daryl!!!! Noah is now looking at old pics of cars I had or Toli and asking are they faster than Doc Halladays Telstar or Steve Johnson's Pro Stock Bike or Daryl's Dart. I might have to collect some old Top Fueler now just so I can tell him it's the fastest of them all. This would be Noah's choice I bet.

Having fun,
Alex

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...pspdlxeofy.jpg

Liteweight 08-20-2015 12:45 PM

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you have a great family there Alex. You gotta be proud bud!!!! Love Noahs T.

An old saying comes to mind... " The apple doesn't fall from from the tree" Well done my friend!!!

liteweight

troublemaker427 08-21-2015 07:19 AM

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Alex, I'd bet a dollar to a donut that shot is from York US30.

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Originally Posted by Alex Polewik (Post 479730)
Here's a another picture I believe is earlier. Anyone have a idea on the dragstrip or who Johnny White was?

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps8pz95z68.jpg


Jerry Terry 08-21-2015 11:39 AM

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Alex I think you are in trouble with Noah , you better start looking for that old Top Fuel car. Hope everything is good with you and your family, tell your dad we said hi.

Jerry & Patty Terry

Alex Polewik 08-21-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by troublemaker427 (Post 479799)
Alex, I'd bet a dollar to a donut that shot is from York US30.

Thanks Jody. Was hoping the name would ring a bell with someone. Wonder if they had entry lists? Have to check into that.

Alex Polewik 08-21-2015 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Terry (Post 479819)
Alex I think you are in trouble with Noah , you better start looking for that old Top Fuel car. Hope everything is good with you and your family, tell your dad we said hi.

Jerry & Patty Terry


Yes, BIG trouble, his twin sister is a handful too. Will definitely tell Dad hi. See you down the road, Alex

James L Miller 08-23-2015 06:01 PM

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There was a Johnny White that drove the Houston Hustler funny cars in the 1970s. Maybe that was the same guy?

Queball Lattie 08-24-2015 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankChastain (Post 321909)
Any of you guys remember the red 65 Dodge of Johnny Perkins out of Jesup, Ga. The one thing I always remember is it had a aluminum front end with the phrase "Bend it Buy it" on the top of the front fenders.. Frank

That car was delivered to the Dodge dealer in Jesup, Ga. in 1965. It was red with tan interior. Raced for several years as "The Chinese Bandit". Once a record holder. If anyone has any further information please contact me @ allikat2805@hotmail.com. Thank you.

Alex Polewik 08-26-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by James L Miller (Post 480017)
There was a Johnny White that drove the Houston Hustler funny cars in the 1970s. Maybe that was the same guy?

Thanks! I'll look into that.

The other picture with "The Super Commando" on the door, may be at Vargo Dragway? Dragstrip near Allentown PA?? Thanks for that tip Steve Stasko.

tommy d 09-11-2015 11:33 PM

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From Facebook.

Charlie A 09-12-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 482255)
From Facebook.





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wv_bob 09-12-2015 06:00 PM

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I want to say that was Frito's car but I might be wrong.

Charlie A 10-23-2015 08:05 AM

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Picture from Facebook: Reported to be a garage built A990 clone "back in the day" but still a cool car with a lot of history.


https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...89379502_o.jpg

Steve Stasko 10-23-2015 06:08 PM

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The Cheshier car has been discussed here before. That is the car Greg Charney won Indy with in 1971. It was a real W051 car, not a clone. Ron Cheshier also owned Bill Gibbs' red/yellow/white Coronet as well.

DeuceCoupe 11-01-2016 10:01 AM

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Old thread, new question.
In the current 1964-65 NHRA class. guides, they list the 426/425hp-8v race hemi. I deduce that this was factored to about 500-505hp so it put the cars into S/S, below the 7.00 weight break.


But they also list a 426/400hp-4v race hemi. I wondered why (besides NASCAR), but if factored the same way, say up to 480hp or so, that would put the 4bbl hemi cars right around W/P=7.08 so they could run in A/S for 1965.


I don't even know if the 426/400-4v race hemi existed in NHRA in 1965, but if it did, was it really factored that way, could those car run in A/S=7.00, and why is there no evidence of that happening?


Leads me to believe NHRA did not recognize the 426/400-4v, whether factored or not?

526 turbo 11-15-2019 01:10 AM

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Hi guys I have a low deck cast 400 mopar block built frm Charlie malyuke it was run with 426 hemi heads! If interested selling thx blown426icloud.com

Rat Patrol 06-21-2020 03:35 AM

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Has anyone got a pic of ‘Mad Moose’, Serbay Motors, Plymouth A990 - raced by William Andress, winner 65 Winternats, S/S. It was the only S/S A990 stick car entered at this meet.....according to the late Paul Ceasrine

FED 387 06-21-2020 09:28 AM

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look on Ebay item 202731496539--- guy has a pic selling for a couple dollars--FED 387

Bill Schlee 07-10-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Son of Hemi (Post 419303)
I know the Bagwell Red car and the Leal 65 A990 from the 70's is the same car, but is the Bagwell Blue car the same?

I heard that a racer named George Kubis has one of the Bagwell cars, do you know anything about this? I'm new to the forum.

Frank Castros 07-14-2020 01:20 PM

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The late, great Ken Montgomery's son has Steve Bagwell's '64 car that was also owned by Defrank & Cohen.

Steve Stasko 07-17-2020 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Frank Castros (Post 618463)
The late, great Ken Montgomery's son has Steve Bagwell's '64 car that was also owned by Defrank & Cohen.

Car has been sold, and was on Racing Junk not too long ago by the new owner, less aluminum.

Bill Schlee 07-17-2020 04:23 PM

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Any idea where I could find pictures of Steve Bagwells cars? It sounds like he had more than a couple.

Ghost Missle 10-04-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FINESPLINE (Post 303775)
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the Butch Leal " California Flash " super stocker built by the factory many years later and at that time was ahead of its time in construction and /or detail.--------John:confused:

Ron Butler car.

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...fc&oe=5F9EE2E0
https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net...8a&oe=5FA10C1F

hemitime 10-05-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Schlee (Post 618248)
I heard that a racer named George Kubis has one of the Bagwell cars, do you know anything about this? I'm new to the forum.

the red car was eventually painted blue by Bagwell , but was there a second 65 belvedere owned by Bagwell ? I wondered this as there are differences from the red car painted blue to the last 65 , roll bar looks different ,new lower stance ,a bunch of stuff ,as the first car stayed looking pretty much the same with next owners . Doubt they would change cage ,wheelie bars and stance then someone change back to older stuff .

Steve Stasko 10-06-2020 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hemitime (Post 625127)
the red car was eventually painted blue by Bagwell , but was there a second 65 belvedere owned by Bagwell ? I wondered this as there are differences from the red car painted blue to the last 65 , roll bar looks different ,new lower stance ,a bunch of stuff ,as the first car stayed looking pretty much the same with next owners . Doubt they would change cage ,wheelie bars and stance then someone change back to older stuff .

Yes, Steve Bagwell had two different '65 Belvederes. The first car (ex-Leal) went to Bud Spears. The second car became the one Ronnie Sox was occasionally match racing as a Nostalgia car in the 80's.

hemitime 10-09-2020 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 625251)
Yes, Steve Bagwell had two different '65 Belvederes. The first car (ex-Leal) went to Bud Spears. The second car became the one Ronnie Sox was occasionally match racing as a Nostalgia car in the 80's.

Thanks Steve , I have asked this question before on other sites and no one would answer for some reason . I had wondered if it was the Sox and Martin nostalgia car , mystery solved ! Where is it now ?


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