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Steve Stasko 10-09-2020 07:45 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by hemitime (Post 625422)
Thanks Steve , I have asked this question before on other sites and no one would answer for some reason . I had wondered if it was the Sox and Martin nostalgia car , mystery solved ! Where is it now ?

Chicago area last I knew. That's been about ten or so years though? I really quit keeping up on a lot of this stuff a few years ago.

DeuceCoupe 10-12-2020 10:05 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Did any of the A990 cars (or 1964 Hemi cars for that matter) race in NHRA with a SINGLE Quad Hemi?


Reason I ask is I'm trying to find a combo that would have fit the Wt/HP=7.00-7.49 class back then.


All the Hemi cars are too light, W/P=6.xx, and all the MaxWedge cars are too heavy, W/P=7.56 or more.


For example, McCandless won SS/D=7.00 class at 1969 Indy.
Drag News just says "64 Dodge", no detail. I thought his cars were 65's anyway.


Mancini 64 Dodge won SS/DA=7.00 class also at 69 Indy, with Wren as R/U, 64 Plymouth.


Then Costa won SS/CA=7.00 class at 71 Indy, says 65 Plymouth, again no detail.


The factored dual quad race hemi A990 cars are too light for this class, they ran a class up in the W/P=6.50 class, so I wondered what engine these guys had in there to run W/P=7.00 class.


See this other thread (pg 5, 8, 9, 10) for some relevant discussion:
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...=20986&page=10

rickseeman 10-14-2020 04:20 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe (Post 625673)
Did any of the A990 cars (or 1964 Hemi cars for that matter) race in NHRA with a SINGLE Quad Hemi?

I think the confusion is coming because several years ago the NHRA started letting 65's (and I guess 64's) run with 1 4 bbl. And I believe this is in Stock. As far as I know, in the previous 45 or so years it was always Super Stock with 2 4 bbls on the crossram. I think Jim Hale has run the 1 4 bbl configuration. You could call him for an explanation. My hat is off to Jim. He's got to be 150 years old and still racing!

Steve Stasko 10-14-2020 05:27 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
It's legal in Super Stock as well. I believe Rick Johnson was running the single four combination on his '64 Dodge when he won Brainerd a few years back.

You're correct though, the single four "Nascar" deal is a newer addition...last 15 or so years?

Do you have Mr. Costa's first name? The name Costa is ringing a bell, but I'm drawing a blank. Could the year of the vehicle be a misprint? I know the '65 cars were running B in the early 70's, but were in C by the end of the decade.

DeuceCoupe 10-14-2020 06:33 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 625802)
It's legal in Super Stock as well. I believe Rick Johnson was running the single four combination on his '64 Dodge when he won Brainerd a few years back.

You're correct though, the single four "Nascar" deal is a newer addition...last 15 or so years?

Do you have Mr. Costa's first name? The name Costa is ringing a bell, but I'm drawing a blank. Could the year of the vehicle be a misprint? I know the '65 cars were running B in the early 70's, but were in C by the end of the decade.



Steve,
Thanks again for your reply on the other thread here:
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...=20986&page=10


Paul Costa won SS/CA=7.00 class at Sep 71 Indy.
Doesn't give city/state just 11.52 at 120.48mph
OK the other sheet in Drag News says
Paul Costa
Livonia, MI


Also, NO YEAR GIVEN on Costa car, I don't know why I guessed 65 but could easily be a 64 car. Maybe that solves the mystery.


The single quad setup sounds like a "new addition" so likely the cars running 1969-71 were all dual quads.


Maybe the bogus letter made them legal as of 1969 race year but not before that?

Steve Stasko 10-15-2020 10:13 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Paul Costa had a '68 Road Runner. There's a photo of the car in the Petersen archive stuff. Plain color, no fancy paint, Super Tricks. The National Dragster results show him in a '68 Plymouth, with the car number, #1527.

As far as the cars made legal in 1969, correct, they were not legal before that. Now everything is legal...go figure. Want to build a '64 Polara 500 convertible with a Nascar Hemi? Have at it!

DeuceCoupe 10-15-2020 09:19 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Stasko (Post 625835)
Paul Costa had a '68 Road Runner. There's a photo of the car in the Petersen archive stuff. Plain color, no fancy paint, Super Tricks. The National Dragster results show him in a '68 Plymouth, with the car number, #1527.

As far as the cars made legal in 1969, correct, they were not legal before that. Now everything is legal...go figure. Want to build a '64 Polara 500 convertible with a Nascar Hemi? Have at it!


Steve,
Thanks again.
I found the picture
https://archive.petersen.org/pages/p...php?ref=405232


I don't have all the National Dragster sheets so the sheet I have doesn't have the make or year of car on it for 71 Indy results. Have had to track them down one by one.


I just spent $100 on the Drag News CD set, nice stuff but I thought it would have more nationals results in it. Not much.


Looking for the full results sheets from

69 Sprint TX Superstock
70 Spring TX SS & S
70 Summer PA SS & S
71 Pomona Superstock
71 Spring TX SS & S
71 Summer NJ SS & S
If anybody has those, Tom Kaasch has been very helpful posting some of the other years.
A long journey of history but trying to capture it from those that were there. My 1st 1/4 mile was 1975 and the era was over by then.

McodeMike 02-16-2023 09:26 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Does anyone remember a roger collins from illinois area? Had a silver dodge a990 in the 90's.

Gary Smith 03-02-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 303403)
Does anyone have any information about this car? It was for sale at an IHRA Nationals in St Louis back in the mid 70s and I came very close to buying it.

I didn't know enough about those cars at the time to check it out properly so I have no idea if it was a factory car or a home built.

I'm a little late posting on this but I believe John & Dave Wolfe campaigned that car at least until '80 or '81 pretty sure it was a real one. Attachment 66034

Adger Smith 05-26-2023 03:03 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
DeuceCoupe, from Nitro Joe's 2022 year end stats
SS/CA 10.05 9.644 -0.406 426 Mark Norris '64 Belvedere 1964 Plym 426 425 460 CE 1 D42 NOBLE
Mark Norris is a friend of mine and I know a little about the history of this car. Mark runs the car pretty much in bracket mode. Mark has a Drag Pack that is capable of 1.00 under.
It is a Jim Hale car built by "Joe Smith"
It has been campaigned as a single 4 bbl Hemi
Jim Hale built his current SS/DA hemi car based off the cage and chassis of Marks SS/CA

Frito 07-06-2023 06:14 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 485850)
Picture from Facebook: Reported to be a garage built A990 clone "back in the day" but still a cool car with a lot of history.


https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...89379502_o.jpg

The Mr Quick car is a real A990

Pro Stock John 08-12-2023 04:22 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by duster (Post 320662)
The paperwork I received was the original invoice from Grand Spalding, a report dated 1978 from Walter Redman verifying the car as authentic, etc. I did not receive anything on the cars previous history. I have learnt more from the last couple of pages of this thread than I knew previously.
I was told the original owner, whose name appears on the invoice, was a Barrister and raced only as a hobby, hence the car remained relatively unmodified.
I would be interested to see the article if it shows up a990.

Back in 2000 I had some engine work done by Norm's shop up in WI, I went up there a bunch. We talked at length about the car. Amazing car.

rickseeman 12-30-2024 08:25 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Jared Jordan: In a 12 year old post, on page 15, you said you had the window sticker for your Grandfathers 65 Plymouth somewhere. I went to St Louis to pick the car up for Robin Pellisier and brought it home until he had time to come and pick it up. If you lost the window sticker, I made a copy. I tried to post it here but it says it's too big. If you need it, I can email or text it to you. Rick Seeman 501-51nine-742five

Jared Jordan 01-09-2025 11:47 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
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Originally Posted by rickseeman (Post 707405)
Jared Jordan: In a 12 year old post, on page 15, you said you had the window sticker for your Grandfathers 65 Plymouth somewhere. I went to St Louis to pick the car up for Robin Pellisier and brought it home until he had time to come and pick it up. If you lost the window sticker, I made a copy. I tried to post it here but it says it's too big. If you need it, I can email or text it to you. Rick Seeman 501-51nine-742five

Hi Rick,

Appreciate the post. I forwarded your info to the car's current owner. He has the original still, but might give you a ring anyway.


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