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gsa612 10-05-2019 06:33 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
What's up in the 1st rd,on live timing it shows the car dialed at 11.30 and no other incrementals.Shows Cagnazzi the winner...gsa612 *edit* we both posted at the same time.I had the rotor loosen off tore the s*** out of the cap.

Nmbr1GMfan 10-05-2019 06:33 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
We had a great matchup with Victor Cagnazzi today for first round which was kind of cool since Autumn first met Victor about 2005 and he has always been super cool. Unfortunately, in the burnout the car just abruptly shut off, got it back and started checking everything (we were expecting the worst) and turn out the little screw on the rotor came off and poof... the two piece rotor is in fact... a two piece rotor (maybe we need a Loctite sponsor:D:D:D). So Autumn has surmised that possibly our pass this morning wasn't what we thought it could have been because of a possible timing issue. Later testing will determine that. We'll leave tomorrow morning for home.
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FED 387 10-05-2019 07:34 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Todd and Autumn---that might partially explain why the engine did not want to rev under a load as it was "partially retarding the timing" --- might want to replace the cap along with the rotor and in the future put a drop of loctite or silicone on those threads to keep them snug---its possible in all your thrashing and assembly that the "screw" really never was tightened merely snugged from the get go---I'm impressed its all coming together very nicely --- Optimistic for your future results--- might want to RE-DYNO the engine in an as is configuration and then try "some things" on the dyno to see what it likes--- looking for that sweet spot so to speak---Regards FED 387

Nmbr1GMfan 10-05-2019 10:53 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 599220)
Todd and Autumn---that might partially explain why the engine did not want to rev under a load as it was "partially retarding the timing" --- might want to replace the cap along with the rotor and in the future put a drop of loctite or silicone on those threads to keep them snug---its possible in all your thrashing and assembly that the "screw" really never was tightened merely snugged from the get go---I'm impressed its all coming together very nicely --- Optimistic for your future results--- might want to RE-DYNO the engine in an as is configuration and then try "some things" on the dyno to see what it likes--- looking for that sweet spot so to speak---Regards FED 387

Totally my fault, I remember tightening it on the dyno but didn't use Loctite, just the little spring washer. Won't make that mistake again. I truly believe now (might be wrong) our old headers would cure the issue of pulling down low, they also might cause a horsepower problem up top though too. Maybe I just need some collector extensions, testing will sort all this out. We'll probably put some new plugs in it and swap headers for Rockingham to see what it does.

Greg Reimer 7376 10-06-2019 10:51 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
I just went out and pulled the distributor caps on both my Monte Carlo and my wagon and put a drop of blue Loctite on the rotor screw threads. A thing like this is worth checking. One thing about race cars, you never seem to run out of things to do where they are concerned.

Nmbr1GMfan 10-06-2019 01:20 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 599247)
I just went out and pulled the distributor caps on both my Monte Carlo and my wagon and put a drop of blue Loctite on the rotor screw threads. A thing like this is worth checking. One thing about race cars, you never seem to run out of things to do where they are concerned.

That's the plan, I hope some of our miscues help a few out. We certainly have made our share.

Bob Mulry 10-06-2019 04:18 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Just a heads up....

The screw coming loose on the 2 piece rotor will only change the rotor phasing and not the timing..

Just sayin'

Nmbr1GMfan 10-06-2019 10:09 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry (Post 599265)
Just a heads up....

The screw coming loose on the 2 piece rotor will only change the rotor phasing and not the timing..

Just sayin'

Then the timing was ok, rotor phasing, not so much.

Nmbr1GMfan 10-06-2019 10:42 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
After some maths and assumptions, if we move to our natural class (I) our -.639 could be a -.689 and with a couple issues we have sorted out I honestly think we could go .80 under in great weather. Probably not with the old headers we're going to try, but if I can get some torque back with a collector swap or extensions on the new headers or maybe a gear swap (have to check the tach first) we might get close.

Larry Hill 10-07-2019 07:19 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Back to back at the track. It's work but it beats wondering.


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