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FireSale 04-17-2020 06:20 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
What does your RacePak tell you? Is it set up to log A/F and RPM? That would tell you what the fuel mix is doing at your shift points. Stock limits your cam lift but you can still move the valve events around.
Good luck.

HP HUNTER 04-17-2020 10:33 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Piston to wall clearence?
Heads been evened up?
Who picked the lobes?


Respectfully I don't see how the MPH is any of the problem at this point.

1320/117=11.28

Don Kennedy 04-18-2020 11:30 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nmbr1GMfan (Post 612474)
Absolutely not. Just dead, no power.

It looks like me I would get another opinion on the clutch just to cover bases . Call Rob Youngblood 208 880 6214 won't hurt

Rod Greene 04-18-2020 12:13 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Todd your pm's are full. I agree with Don give Rob a call.

Greg Reimer 7376 04-18-2020 03:21 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Something doesn't seem quite right if the car goes 6900 at 117.50. That's fast enough to indicate that the engine makes a reasonable amount of horsepower.You said that it has 5.14 gears and goes 6900. That almost seems to me that the car needs more gear. My 327 Chevelle in I/SA had 5.57's in it when I ran it at Pomona a few years ago, and it has a Glide with a typical stocker converter. It ran 7480 in the lights, and it felt like it wouldn't go any faster, it was pretty well done. That figures out to 68 RPM per MPH. I put 5.38's in it, doesn't sound like a huge change, but that is 61 RPM per MPH. The engine seems to like it better, although the first half of the track is about .03 slower. The overall result is about the same. Your engine seems to pull fourth gear OK, but a little more gear would make its job a bit easier. You have a car there that is consistent, and a consistent set of results run to run. Maybe moving the cam up might show some results. I don't think I would change too many pieces until I had some answers. The clutch would be one thing to investigate, how ever.

Glenn Briglio 04-19-2020 09:20 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
What rpm does it make max hp at? What rpm is max torque at? How is the torque at drop rpm of shift and how is torque curve on up from drop off rpm?

Nmbr1GMfan 04-19-2020 10:53 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 612487)
Camshaft ?

I don't think so, same cam as it had before and this wasn't a problem before the engine explosions.

Nmbr1GMfan 04-19-2020 10:55 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyno (Post 612517)
Running out of fuel?

No, carries fuel pressure the whole way and has ample volume.

Nmbr1GMfan 04-19-2020 11:10 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 612605)
It looks like me I would get another opinion on the clutch just to cover bases . Call Rob Youngblood 208 880 6214 won't hurt


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod Greene (Post 612612)
Todd your pm's are full. I agree with Don give Rob a call.

It's not a clutch issue, I've had it loose and tight and it still has issues pulling early in high gear.

Nmbr1GMfan 04-19-2020 11:29 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 612620)
Something doesn't seem quite right if the car goes 6900 at 117.50. That's fast enough to indicate that the engine makes a reasonable amount of horsepower.You said that it has 5.14 gears and goes 6900. That almost seems to me that the car needs more gear. My 327 Chevelle in I/SA had 5.57's in it when I ran it at Pomona a few years ago, and it has a Glide with a typical stocker converter. It ran 7480 in the lights, and it felt like it wouldn't go any faster, it was pretty well done. That figures out to 68 RPM per MPH. I put 5.38's in it, doesn't sound like a huge change, but that is 61 RPM per MPH. The engine seems to like it better, although the first half of the track is about .03 slower. The overall result is about the same. Your engine seems to pull fourth gear OK, but a little more gear would make its job a bit easier. You have a car there that is consistent, and a consistent set of results run to run. Maybe moving the cam up might show some results. I don't think I would change too many pieces until I had some answers. The clutch would be one thing to investigate, how ever.

Greg, thanks for the insight. I believe for what we have it makes great power and runs well, I have always thought the car needs more gear as it runs currently. I also believe if we had the old head that was broken on the engine now this may be a non issue. The car runs fairly well so messing around with the gear now when we're going to swap heads and manifold just to change the gear again isn't in my plan. The problem isn't so bad in good weather but Autumn says it's dead in 4th when the air gets bad. We do have a couple tuning things to try when we get back to racing, but since we'll be changing the setup with new heads I'll not get too far into it. Thanks again.


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