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Chris "drooze" Wertman 07-06-2010 08:51 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
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Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 196416)
They are posted on the front page of http://sportsman.nhra.com/

Anyone didnt see this one coming ?

Dodge 370 385 390 399 2009 Challenger

How do you arrive at a 9 hp increase.

Jeff Teuton 07-06-2010 09:06 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
2.25% increase based on a run of 1.17 under at a national event and an average of .85 under for the engine combination with an automatic transmission at national event year-to-date, or .85 under since the hp factor was last adjusted this year.

Jeff Lee 07-06-2010 11:20 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes (Post 196487)
so now the L88 corvette is rated 1 hp less than our 435hp combo in the same car. that's retarded, and I even wrote a letter to try and get a 5hp reduction.

'cause it only gets one carburetor and you get three carburetors? :D

Patrick Kelliher 07-06-2010 11:44 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Ug, when it's a power increase, the '81 Camaro gets lumped in with the '82-'84. When its a reduction it gets left out. Hopefully its a typo.

RULER 07-07-2010 12:24 AM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
But Jeff didn't say or know is the 427/435 is also one full point of comp less and also has a smaller cam than the L88. how in the heck did somebody get HP off an L88. I see they didn't reduce the HP on the ZL1, it's still at 445 and it's the same except the cam as an L88. Well gota go now and see if putting my fingers in a wall socket will help me understand how they think?

Jeff Lee 07-07-2010 12:54 AM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RULER (Post 196581)
But Jeff didn't say or know is the 427/435 is also one full point of comp less and also has a smaller cam than the L88. how in the heck did somebody get HP off an L88. I see they didn't reduce the HP on the ZL1, it's still at 445 and it's the same except the cam as an L88. Well gota go now and see if putting my fingers in a wall socket will help me understand how they think?

That was one of 'dem tongue-n-cheek statements! :D

Chad Rhodes 07-07-2010 07:40 AM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 196572)
'cause it only gets one carburetor and you get three carburetors? :D

but i have an intake manifold that got ran over by a concrete truck, and a little cam, etc etc. but by NHRA's logic you're probably right

Harry 6674 07-07-2010 12:06 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 196468)
The no changes are about 5 to 1 to changes in stock. So Harry I do not agree with that statement.

So you are saying the longer you race a combination you are making less power? I don't understand the reason for lowering hp unless it was to high to begin with which is very rare.

Tony Janes 07-07-2010 12:33 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Harry I think you still feel that stock and super stock are a performance based eliminator. I do not agree with that. In the sixties they and early seventies it was based on performance. Today these eliminators mostly resemble brackets. Heads up in stock elimination account for between 2% and 12% of the total runs in the eliminator, less in super stock. Class is a side show to the eliminator. When class is run at a particular meet it does draw more entries. I am not saying there is no interest in class, just pointing out that is far less important than it use to be. The horsepower reductions are based on requests. Not everyone is going to be satisfied with the results.

Harry 6674 07-07-2010 04:06 PM

Re: Mid-year horsepower posted @ nhra.com
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 196681)
Harry I think you still feel that stock and super stock are a performance based eliminator. I do not agree with that. In the sixties they and early seventies it was based on performance. Today these eliminators mostly resemble brackets. Heads up in stock elimination account for between 2% and 12% of the total runs in the eliminator, less in super stock. Class is a side show to the eliminator. When class is run at a particular meet it does draw more entries. I am not saying there is no interest in class, just pointing out that is far less important than it use to be. The horsepower reductions are based on requests. Not everyone is going to be satisfied with the results.

Well said and that is whats wrong with stock eliminator. Too much shoe polish and not enough drag racing.


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