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Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 362876)

Very light cars at #3197 lbs, and with a 390 HP rating, had a
8.19 Wt/Hp 1968 NHRA Class = A/SA

Can only recall seeing one at the Drag Strip.
1970/1971 running in C/SA, running 12.90's.

Very unlikely you could ever get a FE powered 67-68 Cougar anywhere near that light. In street trim, they are at least a couple of hundred lbs heavier than a similar Mustang. They have a longer wheelbase, and that die cast nose and hidden headlight setup is HEAVY! The 68 GTE 427engine has the same hyd. cam as a 390 GT or 428CJ, the heads have the smaller valves (2.09"I, 1.66"E) the same as a 428 CJ. Other than .100" more bore, and .200" less stroke than the 428, the 68 427 is equipped almost identically to the 428CJ, but with a higher HP rating, and no cold air offered.
Also, there were later GTEs made with the 428CJ replacing the 427 mid year, and those 428 cars did have cold air scoops. The 428 is a better combo IMO.

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

Theres one in my home town with the 427 in it...very beautiful car. If you see it outside it has to be a very very sunny day lol

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 362881)

Rory,
The 427 engines used an exhaust manifold that looked like the 390 engine. The 428CJ manifolds were far better.
regards, Roland

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

Got the complete specifications,,,,,,,,Great Job,,,,,,,,,Mr. Moose

Car Weight with the 1968 Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

#3616 lbs. = 9.27 Wt/Hp

1968 NHRA Class = C/SA or SS/EA

What made the car suprisingly heavy, the 123 lbs. of sound deadener
added to this model.

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

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Originally Posted by rawhide (Post 362916)

Rory,
The 427 engines used an exhaust manifold that looked like the 390 engine. The 428CJ manifolds were far better.
regards, Roland

You are right Roland, they used the 390 GT style exh. manifolds. Funny thing is, in that Cougar ad/brochure that Hemi Moose posted, the drawing of the engine shows it wearing the exhaust manifold for a 66-67 Fairlane, which is not correct for the Cougar 427.

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil (Post 362942)

Rory,
I knew that the manifold in the picture was not correct but did not know what it fit. I had a set of those heads for years and sold them about seven years ago to a local who was restoring his GTE. I compared them to a pair of CJ heads and other than a difference in the exhaust bolt pattern I could not see any difference. During machining of the head it appeared that they had machined the CJ exhaust pattern in them and then filled the holes that were not correct and redrilled them. If my memory does not fail me it was four or six holes per head.
Roland

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

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Originally Posted by rawhide (Post 362949)

Rory,
I knew that the manifold in the picture was not correct but did not know what it fit. I also had a set of those heads for years and sold them about seven years ago to a local who was restoring his GTE. I compared them to a pair of CJ heads and other than a difference in the exhaust bolt pattern I could not see any difference. During machining of the head it appeared that they had machined the CJ exhaust pattern in them and then filled the holes that were not correct and redrilled them. If my memory does not fail me it was four or six holes per head.
Roland

The GTE 427 used the same head castings as the early 68 428CJ heads, I also had a pair (casting # C8AE-J). You are right, while the CJ head (C8OE-N) has a 16 bolt exhaust bolt pattern, using 4 bolt holes per exh. port, the C8AE-J head has the 14 bolt pattern, similar to the 390 GT cars, 4 bolt on either end, with the 2 center exh. ports "missing"the lower vertical bolt hole. Also, where the upper vertical bolt holes on both the CJ head, and all the 2 bolt truck and big car are all at the same height, the 14 bolt "GT" pattern heads have the upper vertical bolt holes located lower by about 3/8" for the end cylinders. Between that, and the 2 different exh.port heights used depending on the head, its very easy to have exhaust leaks if the headers used don`t have the correct flanges. In addition, most of Mr. Gaskets header gasket applications are incorrect, and have been for many years.

Re: 1968 Mercury Cougar GT-E 427/390 HP

Odd that Ford only installed the juice cam 427 in the Cougar in '68, after it was listed as a option in many car lines at the begining of the model year.