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have them pull a piston and then we will know, the bottom end is suspect.

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You better be ready to put your money where your mouth is.

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The crank would be fun to see also.

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Carson I have seen Wikle motors first hand

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I'm Tracy and I have Dyno'd Wikle's engines and been involved to some extent to tuning them, including the one in my Chevelle. You seem to imply that Wikle builds bogus engines and I take exception to that. I can assure you that DeFrank and myself requested and received legal weight components. I have seen them and handled them and installed them, and you have not. You can pay to see them at any race you like and I will gladly make a side bet with you. Let me know when you are ready.

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At Indy the motor in the car was rejected by NHRA (ask Keith Lynch) this situation is why I am asking NHRA to re evaluate the 402 / 375 in a 1970 camaro. Perhaps it was not legal at that time and now the combo should be re evaluated and returned to the proper hp hp rating

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Was that last year?.....no wait, eight years ago... or more? Wikle isn't responsible for Keith's decisions either. If he machines a block for someone and they build the engine it is their baby. Darrel knows how to build a good engine that will pass all aspects of tech inspection. It takes a bit more time and money and maybe not everybody has sour grapes because someone went to the extra effort to go a little faster.

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You are right the motor NHRA looked at was Keith's fault. So bring the hp factor back to where is was before he killed the combo

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I also have a 70 Camaro and I would be right with you on that request but fat chance would be my guess based on the other '70 402's out there. Look at Ken Keir, and that isn't a Wikle engine either.

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the Hp assigned is wrong the camaro has to much nose weight

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Doug, maybe you should put a stick in your car, because they never came with a automatic transmission from the factory. Tom

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Just for the record....the motor torn down at the Indy Nationals was a 1969 375/396 in a 1969 Camaro(not a 1970 402). Everything was found to be legal except for the piston weight, which was 28 grams light. At the end of that season NHRA changed the rule to a piston/rod assembly weight, which would have made the aforementioned engine legal.

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Keith,
Thank you for clearing that up, I thought I was losing my mind. Well, I already lost my mind, otherwise I wouldn't be fooling with all of this, I guess I thought I lost my memory. I remember you and I talked about this for an hour or so at Columbus a short time after it happened, and what was posted before you cleared it all up was not what I remembered. If memory serves correct, Schroeder bought that car as a running race car, the engine was not a Wikle, and all you did was put rings and bearings in it. At least that's what I remember, but then, I still don't trust my memory.

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And after that they came to my shop in Wichita where Keith and I dyno'd and installed the Wikle engine. From there they went on to Pomona where Keith won the race beating Rampy in the final. Keith is the most competitive racer I have ever met and I'm glad to call him a friend. I'm also glad he isn't racing in C/SA anymore.

TP

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I apologize for getting reeled in on the derailment of this thread.
There are a few Camaros out there and your gold '67 has to be one of my favorites.
Tim, could you post a pic for us? I especially liked it with the beadlocks.

TP

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Tim has some pics of the 67 Gold Camaro under Class racer builds.

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Thanks Tracy

The next time you see it it should look even better than it did and beadlocks are a must lol! I'll take the extra weight for the look unless this thing goes 10.000000 then they might get taken off :) I'm dreaming on that 9 sec pass anyway lol.

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Thanks Tracy

The next time you see it it should look even better than it did and beadlocks are a must lol! I'll take the extra weight for the look unless this thing goes 10.000000 then they might get taken off :) Im dreaming on that 9 sec pass anyway lol.

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I have a Wikle engine and it passed teardown last year at the Fall race at Indy when I set the record.
M.Lind D/SA 801

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What? nose weight? I had one of the first 70 Camaros in C it was a 50/50 car. You need a better reason than that.

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I believe your wrong Tom

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Jim, 1970 Camaro 402 L78 375 hp. 4 speed only, 402 L34 350 hp. 4 speed and automatic, you can google it. Tom

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I don't have to ,I have a letter stating that you could order a 375 402 that's why its allowed.

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This past summer I attended a car show where I came across a 1970 Camaro automatic L78 396/375 car. He was the second registered owner of the car as his father ordered the car new and had all the paperwork. Can't remember the dealer that the car was ordered from but it did come out of south Jersey. At that time I did not realize what a rare combination that is but all I can add is , I seen it and spoke to the owner and he had what seems to be plenty of paperwork to document the cars existance.

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Of the 600 L78 '70 (actually '70 1/2) Camaros produced, less than a dozen are thought to have come with the M40 T400 trans. option. There are 2 or 3 still in existence with with documentation. The most heavily documented is one originally sold through Scuncio Chevrolet in Rhode Island.

The line between 'available', 'produced', 'in the book' and 'accepted' has always been blurry. That line has been pretty well erased for many combos and mfgs.

Regardless, any 9 second 396-375 stocker is one bad azzed sumbeech!!!! :)

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Jim, I known how it got approved, but you couldn`t order it from the factory. Tom