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that would work and i am sure can be arranged just have to set it up friday night ...........then everyone is together and drinks and cookout on sat night .......sweet

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Now that's funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2-3 years ago they had to shut the open down because of the dirt.

Top sportsman have pulled the plug on a race there because of the lack of traction.

Hopefully Howard has finally made the $ commitment to make the track better (once he dug into his pocket for that blacktop, I'd be surprised if he spends any more).

Having a successful top dragster series should be good for the track as a whole. Once the word is out that there is good traction all the way down the track maybe more cars will start showing up for all events that are held there.

----Now-------if we could only fix the organizational/management issues there that still drives cars away!!!

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Reserved pits for top dragster should go over well with the weekly bracket racers.

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Frankie,

If you were not trying to go so fast with that Dodge, you might have a couple of bucks leftover for heat.

We have both raced there long enough to remember what it was like before Vince Barletta, how great it was when he was around, and how it is now. We are also both hoping that it returns to how it was a few years ago. Its a good facility with a lot of nice people and it would not take a superhuman effort to bring it back. If I had a dollar for every D1 racer that has recently said to me "I will never go back to LVD" I would skip T/D and just race Top Fuel. There is a reason they used to get 750 cars at the points race and now they get 300. Until they realize how much it is costing them to not address the issues, it will stay the same.

As I posted before, I appreciate Wayne's effort irregardless of what parameters are placed on the class. Most of the issues can easily be worked out prior to the first race, but if you wait til after the 1st race if attendance is poor, it could too late to attract the 7.50-7.70 crowd.

Bill

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Actually let me un-sugar coat that last post. If the series starts out and 7.50-7.70 racers are not welcome, and car counts are poor. I for one, will NOT join the series after the season starts because cars are needed to fill the field.

I realize that Top Dragster purist's trying to run 6 anything don't want to race slower more consistent cars. Because extra car count will probably dictate the amount of time and money they will invest in extra track prep and spray (especially on a Sat test and tune day) this makes the early decision vital. The extra T/D cars at the gate on a Saturday or Sunday only nets the track a few bucks, basically the same entry as the guy runs his street car and never complains about any thing. and with the extra work and investment and the inherent tendency for someone who just went sideways at 175 mph to voice their displeasure over it, they may lose interest very quickly. I hope this is not the case but I will be surprised if it does not go that way.

Bill

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Billy,
Heat -- NAHH, I'd rather spend it on my girl friend (if you look close in the pics of her you can see the green thongs I bought her last year). What's wrong with eating SPAM 7 days a week. (Spam and eggs, Spam and rice, fried Spam, broiled Spam, baked Spam, Spam sandwichs, Spam with Gravy, that's all I have to say about that ... run Forrest run) oopps sorry got carried away.

"Don't need no stinkin heat."

Those were the days, Super having 130 - 150 cars, heavy having just as many if not more, $1200-1500 weekly payouts. AAHH memories...

I agree about the track doing tech, however, history has a way with repeating itself (wink, wink).

Gary, you're preaching to the choir about parking. No matter where I park somebody always starts crying and whining. BUT if Howard wants us to show up maybe he'll have to give a little and tell everyone to STFU.

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Billy,
No arguments, if the track "does what it says" things may work out, if the track doesn't all bets are off.

Also, IHRA lowered their ET to 7.40 for exactly this reason. Racers were "playing" stupid saying "why can't I go 7.49 I have a TD license." And then saying "I didn't know I needed another license to go 7.40's".
I saw this first hand at Epping last year.

This takes all the guess work out of it. You want to run TD you need and "Advanced License". Done.

The issue is a few people spoiled it for the rest. That's all that it comes down to.

Spring, Spring, Spring

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We have never been to Lebanon Valley before . We were thinking about running in the top dragster series . We have a car that will run in the mid six second range,but having read the comments in this forum we are having second thoughts.We are from the Rochester area and i a'm not sure it is worth the 4 to 5 hour tow.The things that got us interested in the series were the 7.49 max dial and the 1/4 mile racing. Now there is talk about changing these things.Also there seems to be some question about track conditions .
Gary and Barb Antinora
TD1506

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Gary,

All those issues were supposedly in the past ! Don't let my, or anyones, words discourage you from coming to the races. I along with a few others will be in your same boat - do as we all are - give it one shot and see what happens.
I have a feeling because so many of us are being vocal with our concerns the track will be very good. I am looking forward to a great series at the valley - I hope.

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ok for all who have not been there i and many others went plenty fast enough without issues last year in the cold i can say that the valley events at the end of the season where better conditions than some of you guys had at the dutch ....i know of plenty of td cars that blew the tires off there .......does it need better attention yes will it get it ...... i truly believe it ......should the series be looked at by the racers involved yes!!!! when the idea came up (thanks wayne ) it was spur of the moment he didnt think we could do it it was a sunday and alot of new racers where there with fast cars ....thanks to andy from Best sanitation who stepped up to sponosr it ...... i went to the tower and spoke to howard and steve and they where all for it .......we did not ask for any money from howard at that time ......he stepped up and offered to contribute to the purse.....and wayne ran with it from there .....thanks wayne again ....he told me we will do a series and start at 16 cars to see if we can get enough ......because we didnt our events last year so what did we do we filled the field with a few slower cars..... wayne said if this thing works and i hope it does and more cars come the field will change ????......and why wouldnt it ?...as a track owner would howard want to limit his car count i thinj not?......and us as racers? 100.00 to race so what but i know i would rather run for a bigger purse and maybee one more round ... please everyone look at NED's rules that had a very sucessful series last year they are max dial of 7.70 all run except for night of fire then its 32 qualified so they can get the race in .....and as far as ihra rules it is 7.40 for national events only all other events are 8.0 and ask why is that i would think for car counts...... car counts = money money = payouts and paying the track owner so he can buy stuff....as far as the rules if a 7.50 car dials faster that is up to the track to stop it before it happens and we have done this in other instances . if its not caught before the car stages then the competitor is dq'ed and the loser reinstated ..... a meeting before the races each day like super street does the rules can be explained .....so we dont get a hmmm i didnt know i couldnt dial faster then 7.50

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Well said Mike,

To anyone that has been monitoring this thread that has thoughts of participating. Irregardless of past history, LVD can be a good facility and has a lot of friendly people. I have been racing there since 1979, seen the ups and downs and have had more than my fair share of run-ins with the management. They did take the "Wanted Dead or alive" poster with my picture on it in the tower down, that has to be a step in the right direction. I would hate to think a racer stayed home because of something I have posted. If the owner and management invest the money and effort to put out a quality product, meaning a safe, sticky track and organized execution of the race, everyone involved will have fun. If they choose not to that is on them, and I don't blame anyone for not coming back.

Bill Krug
NHRA T/D 1531
S/C 1531
S/G 153K

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Man you can tell it's winter.

All I can say is that "my wife and I will be there to support Wayne and his series sponsors".
I DON"T care if it is 1/8 mile or 1/4 mile, I will race what ever it is.

Since it's Wayne's series (and his sponsors) he can make the cut off whatever he wants (6.50 for all I care).
I just want the series to be a success for every one involved.

All my point is, is that IHRA went to 7.40 for a reason, that's all. Since I don't race IHRA divisionals I can't speak to that.
I think for the price, for the number of rounds and the payout, it can't be beat.
There will be 2 dragsters there for sure :-).

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Its cold Here too!!!

If the bump is 7.70 i will gladly be there to support Wayne and the program.

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frank your correct it is waynes race i guess that says it all .. thank you all for your messages and good luck to everyone this year this thread is officially closed

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due to all the death threats i have received if i dont keep this thread open its back so dont be shy tell it how you feel .......but be fair.....

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I have a few questions based on some info, and some conversations I've had today.

First, to anyone who is feeling like they are "taking a chance" running a Top Dragster at Lebanon valley should know that both Wayne and I have many fast runs at that track, in October, and have lived to tell about it. Do you think we don't care about a safe track? I know our families do. If anyone wants down grade LVD now or any time by what people say, there isn't much I can do.

Second, as Wayne said to me this morning, This is Lebanon Valleys Top Dragster Series, not Wayne Hofmanns Top Dragster Series. Wayne is getting way more grief than help on this forum. He has had at least 18 guys commit to running. They know that Wayne is NOT responciable for the following:

Track Conditions
Track Temprature
Weather
Car Count
You Attitude
Your driving ability
Your interest in racing Top Dragster
And Your Budget

But so far, all i've read is that he some how is responciable for this some how.

This Forum is not helping this whole deal.

Bill,

I have a question that had been a topic of a few conversations in the last day or two with me. You have a Dragster that I beleive you said has a 598" engine. If that is the case, a dragster with an engine that big can 7.30 with no problem. I'm guessing your chassis can't certified for Advanced ET. If this is the case, no matter what happens, you couldn't run quicker than 7.49 if I built you a 632" engine? Is this true or not...........If your car can be certified for Advanced E.T. I WILL PAY THE $135 TO CERTIFY IT THIS YEAR! Something tells me that this is the case.

What happens when the Top Dragster feild takes a 7.30 to get into it. Will you want us to make it a 32 car feild, or an all run feild? I'm not sure where this will end for you. The comment about us quick racers not wanting to run a slower more consistant car really threw me. Unless you have been following my career closly, i'd ask that you don't assume that I don't like to race any one.

I've been warned my some that trying to run a series is more work than its worth. I'd like to think that it could at least get off the ground before we are worn out from it..............Remember, this is Lebanon Valley Dragway Top Dragster series. Wayne is the one who made the first races happen. And they were both 1/4 and 1/8 mile. This adjustment is made based on the saftey of the racer. its an option that will alway be available.

If some one wants information about the series thats positive, and more inside thoughts about it to, please call me at Moroso at 800-544-8894 x 306 from 6 A.M to 5 P.M Monday through Thursday.

Scott Hall

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Scott,
I appreciate the offer and if you have a spare 632" laying around we could work something out. My new car is certified to 6.00 and the 598" engine is only 4 or 5 races old and has ran 178 mph. With a little tweaking it may very well run 7.40s . However the car is very heavy, over 2,000 lbs with me in it. It was set it up to be easy to race. The biggest radiator and tranny cooler made, 2 separate brake systems, dual cup holders, fuzzy dice etc. Last year I ran T/D and qualified for the only full field ever at a D1 race, I paid my $170 bucks and let it rip. If I did not qualify so be it, next time bring enough. I wouldn't show up at Epping for the Nat's with 7.50 car and expect to get in.

We both know there are more than enough sub 7.50 cars within a reasonable tow to easily fill a 16 car field. Getting everyone to make that tow for all of the races is the issue. It is easy to talk yourself out of towing 4 hours if the weather is iffy or its rained all week, etc.. etc.. As a local racer I am saying It would be silly to have a 6 or 7 car field when there are another 6 to 10 (maybe more) NHRA legal 7.50- 7.70 Top Dragsters sitting in trailers on the property. I can tell you there is a fair amount of regulars at LVD that can't run 7.49 but would join and support the series . Business-wise if you were fortunate enough to get a lot of cars to show, I would think twice before sending that many people home "Unqualified". Whether you DNQ at 7.70 or 7.10 a racer is going think twice before bothering to come back. With towing expenses so high everyone is trying race "smarter" and get the most fun out of every dollar. As I posted before, I appreciate Wayne's efforts organizing this. I would like to participate and support the program, but it has to be with the equipment I already own.

Bill Krug

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Bill,

Thanks for the responce. I undertstand the weight issue on your car. I have it, and so do many others. At least I know you have the ability to run 7.49 and quicker.

Whats your take on having to police the cars that can't run 7.49 or quicker having to be checked and "marked" as cars that can't go under a 7.50 dial or break out going 7.49? This is the problem we don't want to get into. It happened at the first race in mid-october, and could have turned into a "great job on winning the round, but your out" for going 7.48 and not being legal, and knowing it.

Waynes been keeping an eye on this forum in Florida, so i'll ask and see what he thinks................

If this change happens, we better have a 16 car every race, no matter what the conditions are. If the local racers complain about $125 entry, or what ever else, this will all be a lost cause.

Scott Hall

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Scott,

After some consideration I had few thoughts that I will "throw out there" These are just my opinions and my goal is strictly a safe user-friendly race.

Wayne Hoffman can and will be held accountable for the weather. We all know he has the connections.

Use Existing NHRA and IHRA safety rules with 7.70 minimum. I think they are the same. Accept IHRA credential, license and chassis cert if possible.

Zero tolerance for running out of certification, there is no reason for it. DQ during a race, reinstatement for the loser. There will be plenty of guys around to sign licenses and during qualifying any one needing an adv lic can run single to upgrade. cars that can't cert to 7.49 can add ballast. A one weekend "amnesty could be considered to let everyone get certified.

Excessive braking policy pre-establish a guideline and enforce it.

On Saturday petition the track for set run times 11am and noon qualifiers 1st rd at 12:45 and every 45
minutes. Allowing the finalists 30 mins would let a 6 round race to be completed at 5:00 pm.
When situation ( breakage, weather etc..) does not allow a Sat race to finish, finish on Sunday during qualifying. All started races must be finished for a true "points Champ". On Saturdays have the track isolate street cars to 2 lanes and "cone off" the inner middle part of the stating line groove for cars without slicks.

Business-wise, I would suggest "all run format" the added pressure of trying to qualify for 16 spots with the high number of 6 second cars within a reasonable tow could keep even low 7 second racers home. A number of guys have stated I will give it "ONE SHOT" and if it sucks I won't come back If the track holds up their end of the bargain and provides a quality product, A racer-run series and the 2 races for 1 tow WILL attract a crowd. There is strength in numbers. The extra cars will give the track a reason to spend extra money for spray etc. Obviously no one minds a larger purse for an extra round.

Race wise, All run lets you have potential for a bye. I would give a bye to the # 1 and # 2 qualifier if an even # of cars. Then let the sportsman ladder determine late round byes. Higher qualified car should have lane choice throughout eliminations. It should pay to be fast.

On Sundays petition management to schedule T/D opposite of super ET so racers can get 3 races for 1 tow without holding up the show.

I know from the number of views there are a lot interested people watching this thread, now would be a good time for input from anyone considering this series. It would be easier to bounce ideas off of each other online than try to meet in person. After ideas and viewpoints etc.. are considered Wayne and Scott can post a complete rule sheet online, so racers can choose to take part or not.

Bill Krug

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Bill,

Good points - however I disagree with your all run idea. You state that if there are a bunch of 6 sec cars it will bump put the mid-low 7 sec cars. Not to sound like an *** - but that is the point. A very fast series. All the cars you speak of (mid-low 7's) for a very minimal investment can easily step their cars up to a high 6 sec car with one system. Believe me if we could have a 32 car field with the bump being in the 7.0's I would welcome the extra round - but not to allow 14 people in who are running 7.40's - if that is the case I will park the faster car and run my bracket dragster.
I have heard it on diff chat rooms people dont want to spray there cars - well then sorry you dont race the TOP DRAGSTER series and you can pay 60 to enter super pro and race for 500.
That is the beauty of drag racing - you cant qualify in one race then you have other classes.
As far as being able to run super and the series - that is up to the people running the series. However I would say no to that - not everyone who will easily make the series will be able to do that so the issue will come up as far as extra runs.
Either way the series should be a good time and I do see it growing into something - so all of the above statements in time will be a non issue.

Just my 2 cents - I have known to be wrong.

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This just in from the track persoanel at Lebanon Valley Dragway:

Wayne Hofmann just spoke with the personel at Lebanon Valley Dragway about the issues in question on this forum. This series is Lebanon Valley Dragways, and they have made a final decision on how class will be laid out:

-7.49 Maximum Dial-in
-16 car fields
-If you don't qualify, you will be automatically entered into first round of Super Pro on days they are running.
-Specific times wll posted for qualifing and elimination rounds. It is a high prioity that the races are completed, and the racers are prepaired to turn around their cars in a timly manner. This is why the 16 car field is being established.

There where alot of good points brought up in this forum. Changes may have to be made as the series moves along, but at this point, this series will be run as a Advanced E.T. certified class with 16 car fields.

As we move along fromthis point, I can take questions or inquires. Wayne Hofmann will be home in two weeks and can take e-mails or calls.

Thanks,

Scott Hall

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Wayne should still be held accountable for the weather !!!

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Now that we have that settled, How did we make out with the Reserved Parking ??

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you mean you missed the meeting - we nominated you to rope off a bunch of spots on the other side of the bridge past the fuel in the grass. LOL.

Do they really get that many cars on SAT ?? Thinking it's gonna be a non-issue - hope it is anyway. It would be nice to have us all in two rows or so .

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Hello all i gotta say i ahve been watching this post for awhile now and you forced me to join i have been racing for a long *** time and i gotta say from listening it looks like this is a top dollar race not a top dragster race i was thinking about towing there because some of you made it sound fun but , damm some of you apparently have lots of money and dont want to get your butts handed to you by a 7.50-7.70 car that cost 1/4 of what yours did .....hmm that would mean you would have to drive it . and we all know money cannot buy driving skills. so when you bunch of advanced e.t. sallys want to race my old (advanced e.t. certified ) butt you let me know but i dont think that will happen .you wouldnt want to hang with me and or get beat by me , hahahaha

old dig

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So the decision has been made and i will hope for a very very very big tailwind so i can race

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Mike,
On a regular Saturday you would rather be out in that field than in the large lot closest to dirt track. It is used for parking for the dirt track fans. Sometimes they have no regard for blocking in drag cars etc..

Old Digger ,
You really need to quit holding back and say whats on your mind.

Brian,
Mega millions is $103 million we could go halves on ticket, maybe we'll get lucky.

Anonymous Lebanon Valley Decision Making Guy,
Since you are setting your own parameters for this class, Is there any chance you will not require the sfi3/15 suit with just nitrous?

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is that you frank - LMAO

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ok bill i am in i have 4.35 cents left in my pocket if we dont win maybee foley can let us borrow his 6 secondmotor ?..


olddigger :thanks for sharing your point of view with us i will race you i dont mind

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No need for a tailwind Brian - just come get a bottle from my trailer :D:D!

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First of all I am glad to see the mood is a little lighter tonight than in the past few days and just think it all started with the topic "top dragster wheelbase" Brian have we covered that question in enough detail

I can not stress enough that we need to move forward if we want this to be a success. The decision has been made Not by Wayne and not by Scott but by the people who are ultimately responsible for the success of this race LVD. There is never going to be a decision that everyone is going to agree to. If you choose not to race because of this then you are missing out on a big opportuinity. I want to race the national event at epping this year. I am stepping my car up to do so not asking them to change there rules to fit me. I realize that nitrous is not feasible for everyone. However, there are things you can do. How creative can you be. Just look at what went on during Friday nigh qualifying at last years NED national. I am kind of sorry I missed it. There were people pulling radiators out, figuring how much fuel they needed in the tank to get A to B. I know there is know guaruntee that I will qualify for every race. But I can tell you that I am committed to this class. If I dont have enough I will figure out a way to enough for the next race.

Brian just curious what heads are on that 598. I think its going to be faster than you think. That car does not look all that heavy.

I have to ask Old Digger are you for real? If so (and I am doubting it) if you PM me with who you actually are I woul be more than happy to give a phone number and email so I can share more positive information about this deal. It created by racers for racers. Trust me Most if not all of us do not fit into the high dollar category. However, you will find that we are committed to fast bracket racing. Fast is not always all about money. Or call the number that Scott gave earlier I think you would be impressed with what he has to say.

Without starting another debate whats with this whole "slower more consistant cars" That is a Fallacy and I have heard it a few times on here. I know of plenty of six second cars that can run the number pass after pass. I have run down 12 second cars at ATCO. Thats always fun 187mph coming up on 110. I know nothing personal was meant but its been bothering me just had to ask.

B.J. Masiello

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I'm not going into details, but my car, and other I have tuned with nitrous are MORE consistant than a naturally asperated set up.

I have 8 runs at LVD in October that vary from 5.933 to 5.950 (1000') from 1100 ft to -67 ft in altitude on nitrous.

It only cost more money when you have to UPGRADE your equipment to run quicker. If you plan ahead when you build your engine the first time with a heavier piston (for nitrous, not heavy for weight) and a good nitrous ring package, and good rods (steel rods work fine) you will always have a "if I ever run nitrous" engine that will run 300 to 400 runs before a rebuild just like any other engine.

Obviously everyone doesn't think they will run nitrous, but it never hurts to look ahead. There are SO MANY options with small shots of nitrous that will pick up 2 tenths and not do any harm to anything.

If someone wanted to run quicker, there are ways of doing it with many budgets. I am as pressed for money as anyone else is, but I research, and know what is going on outside my northeast racing world. There is alot out there for options, and if you've never done it, you should ask.

My side business is consulting for race teams and doing engine and nitrous set ups. I can assure anyone that nitrous isn't what it was ten years ago, and is very easy to work with, and very consistant. All nitrous does if tuned right is makes the engine think its bigger than it really is.

Scott Hall
scotth@moroso.com
scott@tedblackmotorsports.com

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Brian,
Bad news Buddy, we did not hit the Mega-millions. See Wayne about the big tailwind, He's in charge of the weather.

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Scott good information

I have had to explain the thing about it making the engine think its bigger to a few people who have told me I am out of my mind to run it.
The reality is that its not the black art that it used to be. I have talked to techs from just about every nitrous company out there and I have pages of notes of does and donts. Most of which are consistant from one system to another. My point being I agree on the research.

I absolutely see how nitrous could be more consistant. In a sense its a guarunteed volume of atmosphere in the engine. When the air gets worse the nozzles dont know the difference.They continue to spray the same amount of oxygen and fuel. You are less dependent on natural atmospheric pressure to fill each cylinder. Therefore a decrease in barometer is going to have less of an impact on engine power. This is why I wonder sometimes even thought the comp eliminator guys have proven that big bore short stroke makes more horsepower if for a true bracket motor longer stroke motors like 598s might be more consistant. Its the opposite of a jr. dragster motor that is very dependent on barometer because of the one cylinder flat head design with a large combustion chamber. Those motors change big numbers for a small air change.

Just my thoughts take them for what there worth (probably about $.02)

B.J. Masiello

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You are correct BJ. I know many people who put hundreds of runs on motors with spray - now be realistic that's not spraying it with 2 systems - but if you are going to spray your 900-1000 hp bracket motor with a 200 shot it will still live forever. Unless you are a real jackass with it :rolleyes:.

Nitrous has become a very common thing in bracket racing now - not the way we are speaking of - but there are many people who have it on their cars every run for a top end over ride - spin - shake or ?.

Either way it will be fun to see who comes to the first race - off the top of my head I see at least 8-10 cars in the 6's. If some of the guys that run the Epping series come down that could be more. It will be a nice series - something close to home !!

I heard a rumor though - no blowers allowed - LMAO :eek::eek::eek:.

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No Blowers OOHHH NOOO..

"Hello Sonny, Can I pay you a dollar a year for the next 80,000 years for that 930 cubic inch hemi?"
Sonny....hello......hello.....Sonny..are you there......hello...???

Actually I don't know olddigger but "I'll be your huckleberry".

Wayne IS fixing the weather, he's in Florida wanting to see how he likes 80 degrees for racing.

Scott, dead on with the spray. We'll be trying it out on the wifes car to see how it likes it. We'll be doing things a little different by spraying with alky. Hopefully all will be fine.

Kruggy, you do share right???

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no blowers are you talking on the car or no blowers period...

b.j. my heads are dart pro 1 345 i had a guy that was willing to rade me for 360's but my engine guy had me hold off til he flowed mine and they are still flowing beyond .900 so he told me keep them .....i am just nervous its not gonna be quick enough ....i know alot of people that thought they would go quicker and where dissapointed ......if i had a bigger wallet i would just buy a scmidt motor and be done .....but instead this old school bus motor is gonna have to doo.....

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Brian,
I'm sure you'll be fine. It's the total combo not just one thing. You've got a boat load of torque and depending on those heads it sounds like you'll be flying.
As you know the wifes car is only 500 cubes but between the heads, converter, and tire combo it works pretty well.
And don't forget, you can always put a 200 shot on it for about $350.

P.S. He better not be talking about the entertainment.

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blowers for entertainment whatever could you be talking about....lol.......

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Brian

Frank is correct in that there are a lot of variables that come into play. It makes good sense for your engine guy to flow those heads. I am not all that familiar with conventional 24 degree big block heads. My point in asking that was that you do have a decent set of head on that motor so just being a 598 with ok heads it shoul make decent torque. Bigger runner volumes does not always mean more power. There are so many things that come into play. However if you look on Darts web site it appears there are minimal differences between the 345 as they sell it and the 360 as they sell it at least to me I could be missing something though. If your engine builder is telling you to keep them he must feel they will work better with your combination. Although it seems that .900 lift is an awful lot for a bracket motor. at least to me


Other things to consider that will make huge differences are

What gear are you running. depends on the weight of the car and at what rpm you hope to go throgh the traps

Converter stall speed will also be important. Do you allready have a convereter. If not it would be worth calling reputable company and giving them your engine and car specs. Having a converter built for your combination can be worth several tenths. This I do know from experience. I dont know if you have a company you usually use but If you allready have a converter I know trans specialties will cut it open and set it up to your combination even if its not there convereter for a pretty reasonable price.

Good luck although you probably won't need it. Sounds like a 7.3 or maybe faster combo to me

B.J. Masiello