Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Damn, Paul...you really know your stuff.
Maybe you can help me find some old pix of my COPO Camaro that was sold at Scuncio Chev, Rallye Green & raced by Adrian L as 'Rat Patrol' His brother Mario had a 442 with a tunnel ram and was very fast.
Any help much appreciated

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Hey RebelRoad, I think I recall seeing some old photo's of you're Camaro some wheres but I'll have to look again. ;)

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Thanks Moose. Would love to see a couple of it racing. Been told Adrian was active in the street scene, in the RI to Boston area, as well as the drag strip

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Hi Performance Cars magazine
December 1968
Performance test of the proposed (September 1968)
69' SS-427 Chevelle
Later changed to the Chevelle COPO 427


http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...Number=5906859

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Denny Ford from D1 raced a 427 Chevelle in A/S during the early 80s. I don't know if it was a COPO car or not.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Yes, my dad and Bobby are good friends. He raced the same combo in B/S when Bobby was racing his. Very unique cars.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Not the correct thread for this,

1966 Biscayne, 427/425HP L-72, 4-speed
Car weight; #3725 lbs.
Weight Factor; 8.76 wt/hp

NHRA Class
1966,,,,, B/S
1967,,,,, A/S or SS/D
1968,,,,, B/S or SS/E
1969,,,,, C/S or SS/G
1970,,,, D/S or SS/F

'Bis-Kwik', out of Maine
In NHRA 1968 B/S, ran a best of 12.15 @ 112.
Also ran in SS/E in 1968.

In 1968, in AHRA Formula 3/DS, was the Record Holder with
an 11.50 @ 121.

http://assets.hemmings.com/story_ima...00-0.jpg?rev=1

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

RebelRoad, here ya go, here are some pics of Rat Patrol.
http://i35.tinypic.com/xnu6fs.jpghttp://i35.tinypic.com/b493ef.jpg

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Somewhere out amongst the cedar trees on the north side of FT.Hood Texas sits the body of a copo 427 Chevelle that was raced by the U S Army Drag Racing Team and was a regular at Temple Academy Dragway in temple Texas.

JimR

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Thanks Moose. Yes, that's my car....hoping to find a couple of it racing

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Hey PC, I seen this photo that you posted in another thread, so I thought I'd add it to the 1969 427 Chevelle thread instead...Also there was another 1969 427 Yenko Chevelle that recently sold at auction this past spring for $260,000. - HM.

http://mecum.com/auctions/SC0511/SC0...d=052511103338
http://mecum.com/auctions/SC0511/SC0...d=052511103338
http://mecum.com/auctions/SC0511/SC0...d=052511103338

http://mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail...=SC0511-108038

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Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

What Motion Performance (Baldwin Chevrolet) is take a 69' SS396
Chevelle, and turn it into a SS427,,,,,,,
The 'Motion' plan was to install a L-72 427/425HP with a Holley 950 CFM 3-Barrell
into the Chevelle...........

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/HI-PERF-CARS-...-wYKGg~~_3.JPG

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Three barrel is not tri-power.

If I remember it was a Holley with a single, very wide open secondary.

The carb sat in about a 30 degree "twist" on the big block intake I remember.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Carb a 850 prim tb and oval secondary Chrysler ran it for about a half a season in NASCAR.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

The 1969 'Motion Performance' SS427.

An L-72 427/425 HP engine with;

a Holley Model #3916 950 CFM 3-Barrel, installed on an Edelbrock
Model C-427 aluminum dual-plane high-riser intake manifold.

pc

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Paul, do you know Rob Clary? Yenco Super Cars club and forum. He has a few of the Camaro's and Chevelles. They race then in pure stock. They fly with stock bias tires! Very cool real muscle cars.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Rob & his father Tom started Yenko.net and hold a reunion each yr to race some of these rare Supercars. It's a great website that highlights some of the Harrell, Motion, Gibb, Yenko, Dana, Scuncio, Nickey as well as other dealers & performance builders from the era.

Check out these rare Bowties.....http://www.yenko.net/features/featurecars.htm

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

For those too young to know what a 950 CFM Holley 3 Barrel looks like:
(restored By Holley Custom Shop)

[IMG]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...X/IMG_6089.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/m...X/IMG_6096.jpg[/IMG]

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

So....who had the intake with the twisted mounting for the carb and why was it situated like that?
I only remember seeing them on big block Chevys.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Edelbrock, the Scorpion (I think, if I remember correctly) the Tarantula series.

It was supposed to equalize the runner lengths from what I understand, and orient the throttle bores correctly with the intake runners.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Are you talking about the TARANTULA / TORKER series manifolds for the big block chevies. Made for both oval and rectangular port heads in the early 1970's. Carb mount was twisted around to more equalize the length of the intake port runners. Not absolutely sure but I believe this design was tried on another manufactures motor with less success.

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Thanks to both replies.
Just hoping all that was not "flashback" of a memory. :eek:
Strange times back then!

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

289/ 302 Ford versions of the Torker also had the carb twisted.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

The Edelbrock Torker #TM2R (Chevrolet big-block, rectangular port)
recommended for automatics.

http://victorylibrary.com/graphics/TM2R.JPG

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

About 20 years I saw an original 1960s Carter blueprint for an AFB three barrel. It was for NASCAR Pontiacs but I have no idea if it was ever actually built or run.

It did the secondaries just like Holley - the carb looked identical to a regular AFB until you looked down the secondary throat.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

That's the one I remember.

Thanks.

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You are correct Dan.

Carter 3636S

950 CFM 3 barrel built specifically for 421SD Pontiac

Holley had 3 versions of the 3 barrel.

First were for NASCAR Hemi with LeMans bowls like a Ford GT-350 289 715 cfm or a 427 FE 780 cfm single 4.
That carb on a cross ram bath tub style mag intake was the only "real" single carb Hemi in 1965.
950 CFM

Then came aftermarket 950 4150 cathedral bowl and a year later a 1050 version with big holes in the choke plate.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Years ago we actually cut one up and re-installed the top back on straight. Picked up over .20 and 2 MPH. Called Jim McFarland and told him about it. He said they knew but most of their SBF customers were not seeing the other side of 6000 RPM so they did not care.
Besides he said to me, we sell chebbie manifolds 50 to one over Fords so that is where all of our R&D resources are going.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

RR, Rob and I have been friends for quite a while. Great bunch of guys there. I have had their YSC logo on my car for about 3- 4 years. Rob's car is very fast.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

This 1969 427 Yenko Chevelle just sold for $162,000.
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1296/stch1.jpg
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/CH0911...d=091711144048
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/CH0911...d=091711144048

http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...ow=85&lottype=

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Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

I have never seen a rear spoiler on a copo before,man,it don't look proper in my opinion,take it off and store it,,,,

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

New to the forum - my old Chevelle was never at the drag strip, just street racing & a few 'in the flats' impromptu races.
It is one of only a few "KAN" plant COPO Chevelles . . .
May be (most likely is to my knowledge) the only '69 COPO/Dick Harrell Chevelle . . .
http://northshoreclub.net/_assetts/M...2011-0621a.jpg
http://www.maxchevy.com/features/201...bration-3.html
"Roger and Karen Day came out of Texas with this COPO Dick Harrell Chevelle that Roger had purchased new as a young man.
They had pursued it on a whim and were able to buy it unrestored and worn.
The just-completed 427” monster took home the Best of Show accolades."

http://www.maxchevy.com/features/201...n/DSC_5340.jpg

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

May be (most likely is to my knowledge) the only '69 COPO/Dick Harrell Chevelle . . .


A COPO is a 427 from the factory what did Dick Harrell do?

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Picked up about $800.00 (couple of months wages back in the day) for a few hours work (paint stripes, hood locks, tach, motor tweaks and three emblems) . . .
Not much otherwise . . .

When the COPO's became available in '69, transplants were no longer required. Mostly, just minor motor mods and a few other 'touches' on the COPO's to make them stand out or perform better - similar to what Yenko did with COPO Camaro and Chevelle. Here's a link on a '69 COPO/Dick Harrell Camaro that tells a bit about the process:
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/fea..._packages.html

In addition to the minor motor mods on my car, Harrell added hood stripes and locks, a Sun SST802 tach and three emblems. Most likely had my car in and out in less than a day - picked up good money for the time spent.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

As always, I try not to get too far in the middle on these issues that keep surfacing on the Dick Harrell name. Since 2009 I have read and listened to the embellishments of claims of my name, my deceased husband's name, plus my family's name to boost claims & value of this -------orange---- car. It is also important for me to mention the unnecessary, uncalled for, in addition to rude, arrogant emails and phone calls on the demands to license this car. Now I read about Roger D adding Dick Harrell's NHRA Drag Racing Hall of Fame induction to bolster his stories, which by the way it is the DON GARLITS INTERNATIONAL DRAG RACING HALL OF FAME, the most PRESTIGIOUS DRAG RACING HALL OF FAME that Drag Racing has to offer.

I was heavily involved and in charge of all paper work, conversions, repairs and any work that was performed in the DHPC the entire time it was in operation until it was closed due to Dick's death.

I had close contact with Dave & Norma Libby and Oop prior to Dave & Oop's passing. I also worked closely with them and other employee's in the shop with any and all work that was performed.

I try to always do what is right and strongly know the following statements are true and a fact:
"This orange-----car was never at DHPC and I have never talked to RogerD on the phone, nor have I seen RogerD in person & never have seen this orange car. There was never an invoice typed at DHPC on this orange car. I made no work order or conversion order for this car. I NEVER SAID THAT I TYPED THE DHPC INV FOR ROGER'S CAR. He took my comments & twisted them to fit his story."

These statements are made by me for another reason - to be in fairness to those people that have purchased a genuine Dick Harrell car.

I was there and I lived it and I am still living it!
__________________
Elaine Harrell "Mrs. Chevrolet"

CLAIMED HARRELL VEHICLES: UNDOCUMENTED: CERTIFICATES NOT ISSUED: Warning: Anyone purchasing cars purporting to be an authentic "Dick Harrell" car should ensure that the seller/owner has clear evidence of the right to use the Dick Harrell name. Suggestions for potential purchasers including a warning that anyone purporting to sell an authentic "Dick Harrell" car should have a certificate or letter of authenticity to prove that the car is authentic and can retain any Dick Harrell trademarks, etc.
http://forum.dickharrell.com/showthread.php?t=1228

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Here's my old car from 1969 & 1970. Originally an aluminum head SS 396/375 4 speed. Dan Jesel convinced me a 427 was a better combo.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Wayyyy Coool John. Looks like some great memories.

Any other stories, pics or info on your car?

Chris.

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Were those 427 COPO cars Malibu's or were they 300 Deluxe 2 door hardtops? That body style and series came out in '68,ran through '69, and was gone by '70 when the Malibu 2 door hardtop was the standard Chevelle. No post cars were made then except 4 doors. My red '68 stocker is a 300 deluxe 2 door hardtop. It differs from a Malibu by not having the side trim, has no back up lights in the bumper, they are relocated to the tail light lenses, has a different emblem on the rear panel, and no horizontal moldings across the rear panel under the deck lid. Also, the '68 300's had a simple Chevelle script on both front fenders behind the wheel opening. . The 69's were similar. That was the year of the 2 door post 396/375 horse option to counter the Plymouth Roadrunner.Wasn't that a neat time to be alive if you liked fast cars??

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

I had one of those 69 Chevelle 300 with the 396/375 Automatic trans no options NONE----other than hd suspension and posi---what a sleeper !!!!!!street raced that thing won enuf to buy a house !!!!! mine was burgundy with a black interior---- wish I still had it O'boy do I wish probably worth what a new house is worth now

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 

Had tons of stuff but it got destroyed in a rather nasty divorce. Those pics were sent to me by someone who had old Raceway Park News mags.
John