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My "old guy" memory thinks 650 for some reason. They were offered as a crate motor and were never put into production.

Correct me if this is incorrect.
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Here's another old photo of some 427 SOHC motors in a warehouse...

http://mitteleuropa.x10.mx/files/REN..._AA_01_01a.jpg

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D5 Hemi block and one less D5 piston. Not many D5 blocks floating around. I've seen a couple sets of heads, but the blocks seem to be non-existant.

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Early attempt at making a V-2 Hemi engine. This was before CNC machines became common place. Saw a block in half by giving it to a TF driver.

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I am not going to steal the purpose of this post but there are names on here who are the pioneers of the sport of drag racing. Tom Hoover and all of the Ramchargers, Stewart Pomroy of Motown Missle and too many to name are all at the East Coast Drag Times Hall of Fame Reunion. If you are a mopar fan, you can not believe what it is like to sit and just talk with Tom Hoover. Go to the new eastcoastdragtimeshalloffamereunion.com under the heading News, Archives and stories are two 2011 videos which includes a long interview with the Ramchargers.

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...yKMember-1.jpg

http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...ndyKMember.jpg

I didn't realize it at the time when I took the photos, but this K member was stamped from thin tin. Application was 1968 Hemi Dart. Original owner Dick Landy.
This, was NOT acid dipped, it was stamped this way. Never seen one before or after.
If I remember correctly, it weighed 13 pounds less than an uncut original.

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that looks like John Holman of Holman&Moody
regards, Roland

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http://www.dearbornflashback.com/xfiles_sohcgalaxie.asp

some cars with the legendary 427 sohc

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http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ustang&page=42

another history about 427 sohc ,for $ 1.000 each

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Interesting comment, a $1000 bucks for a 427 SOHC motor...when brand new 426 Hemi's were around $700-$800 dollar option back then to order one in a vehicle.

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Landy probably had that special ordered from Chrysler engineering...I wonder if any of the other factory teams got one of those lightweight K-Members. (I know a few years earlier the A/FX teams were using lightweight K-members as well, but they were prone to cracking.)

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It's a very cool piece, & it's never been cut for a full length pan. There were no cracks on it, but the steering box mount flexes ALOT when turning the wheel.
At first I thought it was acid dipped, but the edges are too crisp & sharp. A definate telltale sign of anything acid dipped is to check the edging. If it's tapered it's dipped.
And I got corrected in the actual weight difference of this one . I quessed 13 lbs, it's actually 8 lbs.

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Bet they NEVER figured it would still be around 44 years from the date they engineered it.

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Liteweight, I'm assuming that K member was from your old Landy project or did you keep it and install it in your current '68 Hemi Dart, (it's origins). Also did you find any other lightweight pieces not offered by the factory or perhaps made by someone else.

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Iv'e been fortunate to see a few sets of pretty cool sets of cylinder heads.
1) Weslake Big Block Chrysler
2) Weslake Indy Ford
3) D5 Hemi
4) Four valve Canted valve bucket activated inline six cylinder Chevy off road truck engine
Sorry, no pictures just memories.


See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

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I would like to see the BB Mopar Weslake heads. I've never heard of them. I remember the Weslake SB Mopar and Ford heads where the intakes point straight up. I seem to remember they could have a Weber downdraft carb bolt on directly. Any description you can give us?

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Best factory FoMoCo 2-4V FE intake ever made.
The infamouns C8AX "Tunnel Wedge" still very popular today.

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Alex,
I was at the annual Mustang car show in Roanoke Va. today and saw two different cars with the tunnel wedge intake manifolds on them.
regards, Roland

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Your correct. That K member was on the Landy stick car when I purchased it. I offered it to the current owner, but he was not interested in it. I installed it on my current car for awhile, but decided to sell it. It currently resides under Marfens ( Gene's Speed Shop) Dart
When I purchased the Landy car there just wasn't alot of a Hemi Dart left from Dicks racing days.

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http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/...artKMember.jpg

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Yeah I know I got a weird user name...I'm a guitar player Marshall and Fender amps.

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421 Super Duty Pontiac exhaust manifold. I took this at the 50th Anniversary race at Indy.

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Some Max Wedge exhaust manifolds.

At one time I had a set of 427 Ford cast iron headers but didn't have a digital camera back then. I had a couple of guys with pickups with 390s that wanted them, but there wasn't any way those would have fit. I guess they only fit the Galaxies.

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Max Wedge 4500 cross ram. I would guess this was a NASCAR piece. It appears to have a Chrysler part number but I couldn't read it. It looks a bit like the Indy crossram but the Indy runners are much shorter.

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Some sort of Indy car engine. I don't know what year this was designed, but I'll guess around the time of the Ford Indy engine (circa 1963). I don't know if it ever got past this drawing. I've never seen anything else about it.

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James, that photo of the blueprints says it's a 255 cubic inch motor in the upper right corner of the photo...

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Yep, I seem to recall the Ford Indy engine was 255 cubic inches back then as well. It was developed off the 221 small block (before the 260/289/302 varients). I think the Offies were 183 cubic inches (3L). I think the stock blocks got a bigger engine, like the mid-1950s where Chrysler took the 354 and blew away the Offies. It was outlawed before they got to qualify. They showed their hand too early. Probably Chrysler needs to sandbag a little if they got a killer in the bag. They get outlawed if their stuff is too strong, or handicapped out of contention.

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Both the 1963 pushrod and 1964 DOHC Ford engines were 255 cubic inches. During that period of time the Offy's were also 255. Later in the 1960's pushrod motors could run at 305 which is what Dan Gurney did with his Weslake headed Fords. In 1968 when they started turbocharging the engines the size limit became 2.65 Liters. Bobby Unser won with the Offy when the two turbines died with 10 laps to go.
regards, Roland

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http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com...ont_corner.jpg

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com...cal_engine.jpg

http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/t...d/viewall.html

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Would that be called A MAXIMUM Maximum Wedge, or an ULTIMATE Maximum Wedge? Maybe if two 4bbl carbs is good, then four ought to be killer? They probably couldn't get that much air flow into the cylinders anyway.

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Hard to believe the Offy had roots in the Harry Miller fours made in the 1930s. I went to the Miller's at the Mile reunion last summer in Milwaukee. It was pretty cool seeing those old cars. Fred Offenhauser worked for Harry along back then before Harry died.

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Actually I think it might of worked if they ran the 13.5:1 or higher compression and had longer intake runners on the Max-Wedge intake...running four 500 cfm carbs = 2000 cfm...running four 750 cfm carbs = 3000 cfm, and maybe bore & stroke it...If you think about it wouldn't be that much more different that a big cube Pro-Stock motor with two big dominators on top of a tunnel-ram.

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Found another old shot from the K&K Insurance team...check out the motor mounts.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QfA3Ao-q5G...to+install.jpg

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Does anyone know how many of these exotic manifolds were made?

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New challenge:

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Ardun ?

liteweight

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You clicked on the picture, didn't you?

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I think the spark plug tube spacing makes it obvious. I don't know of another head that the plugs are paired like that. The newer Chrysler Hemi heads like the PS and PST heads have the center cylinders paired together and the ends spread apart.

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Nope. It was a quess. Looked at the tube spacing & valve cover attatchment. Couldn't have been any production Hemi

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Next:

http://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f...1ga-12127a.jpg

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Just kiddin'. Hemi pros would fugure that one quickly.

Now, scratch your head on the newest pic I found.