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To Alan Peters, Jr

Alan I remember going over to your house and seeing the 66 or 65 Impala you had in progress and showing me the gusseting you did and telling me about all those problems with big Chevies. I can't even remember if it was the 80's or 90's but it inspired me to build the 1968 Impala i had into a stocker.

Thanks for the inspiration!

Will Lamprecht - 65 Impala I/SA 396/325 in progress.

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[QUOTE=impstocker;437910]To Alan Peters, Jr


Looks real good Will. Can wait to spend some time tearing into the engine.

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Just some more pics, working inside now.
Will Lamprecht I/S 1965 Impala in progress

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Winter time in NY, but December 27, Sunday was nice enough to get some painting done.

Will Lamprecht 65 Impala I/S in progress.

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More guerrilla NY winter outside build pictures. Engine bay looking for that 396.

Will Lamprecht 65 Impala I/SA in pregress.

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Hey Will, isn't it fun cleaning greasy rusty old impala parts! Boy that sure looks familar! Keep posting picturesI love watching your progress I keep checking on a regular basis. When it's all finished (they never are) that is
going to be one badass 65 chevy stocker! You are doing a great job.
Al jr.

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Thanks Alan. I have been busy building a 1964 Ford Falcon street car for a friend. I will be back on the Imp soon. I want to have car completed and painted in spring as a rolling chassis just waiting for engine and trans. Most of the parts are already clean and prepared. Here is a picture of my X-Mas tree w bunch of parts for Impala including Fuel Pump and filter, TH350 Tranny , shocks, master cylinder plus disc brakes for front, MSD 7AL ect.

Will

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Not much different. I painted door jams and installed. I will do finish body work and paint in Spring? Sometimes I paint car in pieces but I will be doing some graphics so will paint when complete.

Will Lamprecht I/S 65 Impala in progress.

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Update. April 1 cover came off of Impala. Meanwhile I built a real workbench and organized my garage. One pic is with front fenders attached. Looks like real car! Only helb by few bolts so I can remove to finish front suspension, brakes ect. Trying to go "B*lls to Wall" with project so I can run this year. Will have rolling chassis complete and wired real soon. Back to bodywork paint. I will be picking up a better trunk too. Just looking for a passenger fender front extension plus rear trim under trunk. (high $ that part) Interior started too with headliner going in. I will be rebuilding the 306/325 HP engine I had in my green 68. That car went 11.71 with that motor and stick. Meanwhile I built a tribute Grumpy Camaro. Yea only a model, but I did build it.

Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress.
Div 1 NED

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Cool. my 1969 will get put together this year.
One nut at a time.

D

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Where car is at today.
1) Fuel Cell/Pump / Battery installed. Just got rest of braided line to go up front. When I last used this fuel cell I have a AN Fitting plug for the unused outlet but it would drip leak. Any suggestions to seal including sealants?

2) Ignition mounted on the dash side of heater core block off plate. Battery cable runs up to a lug on this plate then a separate cable to starter. Battery cable #1 welding cable.

3) Front suspension with QA1 Adjustable shocks. Right now set on the "80/20" setting. Six cylinder springs with 1.5 coil cut out. Stock disc brake conversion. Lighter drag race version part of the "later upgrade" list. Master Cylinder from 83 Dodge.

4) Engine compartment. Basically waiting for the 396!

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Here are body shots. Just need to get passenger side front fender extension. Also have a better trunk lid on the radar next couple weeks. I will be painting myself. Not a "dime rocket" but maybe a "50 cent rocket"

Will Lamprecht
I/SA 65 Impala Div 1

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Looks Great! However I would lower the fuel cell. I got tossed at a Div 7 National event because the top of my cell was higher than the top of my rear wheel house. I had it mounted above my spare tire well to clear the tire i was using for ballast. Plus the "gravity" of being high up can cause fuel to flow past the floats causing the motor to hydraulic.(You can ask Wes Mcgann about that.) Just an FYI to help you prevent an issue later.

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Earl's Stat-O-Seals:
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Just had to post this. I mounted slicks and threw them on to make sure for clearance. Starting to look like a "real drag car" now. LOL Paint on the way- next pics will be of painted car. Then we work on motor/tranny.

Will Lamprecht

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Good luck with the painting Will...hope all goes well for you. :)

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Very nice of you to share this build... we don't see enough of that. GREAT car, and love the sound in the video from 2003 !

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Painted this last weekend. Will add another coat of clear coat but basically done. Have new Hoosiers front tires ordered. Real "roller" now.

Will Lamprecht 1965 Impala I/SA Div 1 in progress.

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Colors are Metallic Silver with Metalfake , Candy Red stripes. Pics don't show the metaflake well. I was going for a nostalgia 60's early 70's paint scheme since I will be racing in the N.E.T.O. (Northeast Timing Organization ) series too.

Will Lamprecht I/SA 1965 Impala in progress.

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I think you hit the target, it looks great. And you won't have any trouble finding it in the staging lanes.

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Car is looking good ! I will be by in mid August to perform my tech inspection ! Just fore-warning you and Carl.

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Thanks for the heads up Joe!! I was just swimming in your bro-in-laws Ed's pool yesterday. He liked it so much I get free swimming rest of the summer! LOL

Will

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Joe H you have a PM

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PM returned

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Good thread. I wish the 327-250 engine was rated the same as all the other '65 Chevrolet products at 245 rather than 251. It would make a good combination in this car. The 396-375 would also be fun. If the power rating were more favorable, this would be the last option to run a 409, too! Keep up the good work.

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Thanks Dwight for the input, but I'll be using the 396/325 engine i ran in my 68.

Will

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Given the difficulties with all the other combinations, the 396-325 is the best choice with an automatic. I was just pondering the possibilities. A couple of those cars have hit the market here that are in "project" form.

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Didn't Dennis Oliver run his 65 as a M/S with the 327 combo for a while?
Think he was doing that to get the 327 lined out for the Camaro he runs now.
That old 65 ran forever as a P/S 283 combo. I honestly was surprised he sold it. I am sure he had that car for over 20 years.

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Yes, he tried it. IIRC the engine came from the Doughty brothers in Baton Rouge. At the time, I'm not sure he was trying to get an engine lined out for the Camaro, but the fact that he had it made the idea of the Camaro more reasonable. Dennis always had wanted a smaller car and I'm glad he finally got one. It's a nice one, too.

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Dwight what does the 327-300 hp look like, I know when I raced stock back in the seventies it was rated to high,but it had the good heads, we ran the 1968 327 250 smog,small valve motor in Msa 68 chevelle wagon and Nsa belair sedan and Osa in a impala convertible and psa in a wagon

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You're putting together a great project car,looks like you are having fun doing it.The '65 327/250 horse engine differs from its predecessors(62-64) by way of having 461 heads as opposed to the 896/520 casting. That gives you a big improvement in valve size on the intake, port size, and maybe a little bit of compression.There's five horsepower there and then some.The 300 horse 327 also had the 459 intake and the AFB carb, but the short block and cam are the same.The 459 intake is OK to use on the 250 horse with the Rochester 4 jet,and those improvements can make a big difference.The 65 engine has an advantage with the heads, the 68 engine with the intake and carb,but gives a lot back with the low compression head, around 9 to 1 compression,The cam is a little different in 68 as well.I do believe,however, the big block is the better way to go,especially since you have a proven motor already.Keep up the good work, and keep up the photos!

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Greg pretty well covered the makeup of the '65 model 327-250. To put some more perspective on the small block choices in a '65 full size Chevrolet:
1. 283/195 @170 Not totally bad considering you can use a 3-speed automatic now. You would have to want to chase this one because it is not favorable enough to be built cheaply. Obviously, it would be better if it were rated at 162 like in the Chevy II.
283/220 @ 217 auto Not totally bad either. This combo has been beat on a lot which means that to build a fast one will be expensive. Ask Wade Owens.
327/250 @ 251 This would be better at 245 like all the other applications in 1965. The parts are identical to the 327/300 except the carb. This combination has lots of development history.
327/300 @ 265 Like stated above, this engine is identical to the 250 hp version except carburetor. The 4GC will flow ~485-500 cfm while the AFB on the 300 version flows ~585-600 cfm. Is that extra airflow worth 14hp? I don't know. It has been my feeling that the GM AFB combinations need to be looked at again. The MoPar guys have made great strides in the development of the AFB's potential and that should cross directly to the GM engines. Also, you could make a case for using the aftermarket versions - Carter and Edelbrock - that have the same throttle and venturi sizes and pick up an additional 25-40 cfm.


All the 327 high compression engines from 65 thru 68 are basically the same except for carburetors, so you can do some comparisons there and make your own decisions. The 68 327/250 is different because it uses smaller port heads and less compression, but it has a Qjet and that is what attracts attention. Over the years as the combos have been sorted out the small heads have shown to be enough of a disadvantage that the power rating is down in comparison to the others. It's all about airflow, isn't it?


None of these combinations are a decide advantage over the selection of the 396/325 and none offer a cheaper solution. "You pays your money and you takes your choice", as Huckleberry Finn said.

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Want to thank everybody for the input about the Small Block combos for the 1965 Impala. I will be running my 396/325 engine, this is the same motor that pushed my 68 Impala to 11.70's with a stick at 4095 lbs in I/S I never really sorted out the clutch and 60 foot times, spun the tires a lot. I hope with the TH350 , which I have with a 2.75 1st gear, i can run a consistent lower 60 ft times, my best if I remember were 1.59- 1.65 with the stick.

Lots of real fast I/SA cars in Div. 1 Most SBC Camaros, Novas Chevelles. 11.40 - 11.65 the norm. Yikes! With my MPH I had though the 396 is making power... we shall see. But, more work to do/

Will Lamprecht

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Just a quick update. I compound buff paintjob, installed most trim, just waiting for missing pieces. Finishing up brakes, elrctrical ect. Carpet coming in next week to finish off interior. Will be installing a BBC block to mock up for tranny install. Making car ready just to install motor probaly in early next year by Feb.

Will Lamprecht Div 1 65 Impala 396/325 I/SA in progress

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how does that new drivers door latch work?

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Latch works allright for a nock off Mexican/Chinese piece. This ain't no 100% original restoration show car, just look good from the stands i guess!

Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress

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will I m the one that sold you the door latch. take a look at what I just finished there is 5 pages so far http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...opics/622826/1

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Will I love it , keep going strong . OLDINJUN blue is 'a beauty eh '---Trevor

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Old Injun, I was wondering how you knew about the new door latch!

Yes, very nice restoration on that Biscayne.

Quite honestly, my 68 Impala was an original 427/425 car with the # matching motor. I would do the car show thing for years, but really got boring. I always wanted a stocker so I built my 68 Impala into a race car, that car sold and and restored to OEM.

I had that car 30+ years but ended up in the hands of somebody who builds/collect 68 Fullsize BBC cars! He does not care about drag racing and has no interest in that part of the history of the car. One of the main reasons I am building a 65 Impala I was able to get all the racing parts back including motor, rear end ect..

I scratch my paint job on the 65 already but hey, it's a race car!

My ideal Street car would be a V8 Vega! Also wanted one.

Will