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AC 04-27-2020 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 340Cuda (Post 613294)
Stewart,

I see that the CDC said they saw median numbers for R0 for COVID-19 at 5.7.

I would think that just by observation one would notice that COVID-19 is more contagious and more deadly than the seasonal flu.

Respectfully,
Bill

says who

Infections
COVID-19: Approximately 2,994,640 cases worldwide; 965,933 cases in the U.S. as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.

Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 206,811 deaths reported worldwide; 54,877 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...019-vs-the-flu

Superfan1 04-27-2020 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AC (Post 613304)
says who

Infections
COVID-19: Approximately 2,994,640 cases worldwide; 965,933 cases in the U.S. as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.

Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 206,811 deaths reported worldwide; 54,877 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...019-vs-the-flu

The flu season lasts approximately 6 months and it kills about 50,000 people per year in the U.S. Covid-19 has killed close to 55,000 people in a little over 6 weeks! It's like comparing apples and oranges!

Stan Weiss 04-27-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AC (Post 613304)
says who

Infections
COVID-19: Approximately 2,994,640 cases worldwide; 965,933 cases in the U.S. as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

Flu: Estimated 1 billion cases worldwide; 9.3 million to 45 million cases in the U.S. per year.

Deaths
COVID-19: Approximately 206,811 deaths reported worldwide; 54,877 deaths in the U.S., as of Apr. 27, 2020.*

Flu: 291,000 to 646,000 deaths worldwide; 12,000 to 61,000 deaths in the U.S. per year.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/heal...019-vs-the-flu


Interesting how you did not post the next paragraph in that article.


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The COVID-19 situation is changing rapidly. Since this disease is caused by a new virus, people do not have immunity to it, and a vaccine may be many months away. Doctors and scientists are working on estimating the mortality rate of COVID-19, but at present, it is thought to be higher than that of most strains of the flu.

Stan

Bart Kilraine 04-27-2020 03:45 PM

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The covid-19 virus has been with us 16 weeks , if you have one of those democrat gov. over reacting,your state might not be racing this year.

Bruce Noland 04-27-2020 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bart Kilraine (Post 613323)
The covid-19 virus has been with us 16 weeks , if you have one of those democrat gov. over reacting,your state might not be racing this year.

And if you have one of those Republican Governors you may not be living by the end of this year. There would be thousands more Covid 19 deaths without the stay at home orders by competent Govenors.

Superfan1 04-27-2020 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bart Kilraine (Post 613323)
The covid-19 virus has been with us 16 weeks , if you have one of those democrat gov. over reacting,your state might not be racing this year.

Even if your 16 week number is correct; as of right now, COVID-19 has killed almost 56,000 people. The flu season usually lasts 6 months, which is 26 weeks, and the flu kills about 50,000 people. COVID-19 has killed more people in a much shorter period of time and the deaths are increasing daily and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

Mike Pearson 04-27-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 613329)
And if you have one of those Republican Governors you may not be living by the end of this year. There would be thousands more Covid 19 deaths without the stay at home orders by competent Govenors.

If that is the answer how come New York is in such shambles. They have been under the same stay at home order as the rest of us and it sure didn’t seem to work real well there. The only thing the stay at home order has done is put people out of work and in the poor house. Hopefully our governor will start to ease up on the quarantine so people can get back to work to feed their families and pay their bills.

Bruce Noland 04-27-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 613337)
If that is the answer how come New York is in such shambles. They have been under the same stay at home order as the rest of us and it sure didn’t seem to work real well there. The only thing the stay at home order has done is put people out of work and in the poor house. Hopefully our governor will start to ease up on the quarantine so people can get back to work to feed their families and pay their bills.

Nothing is foolproof because fools are such ingenious people. This isn't hard to understand. The virus had the opportunity to run wild in one of the most densely populated places on earth before it was detected. Just think how many more people would be dead if the Governor hadn't shut the state down. That is my answer.

Bob Lasko 04-27-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland (Post 613329)
And if you have one of those Republican Governors you may not be living by the end of this year. There would be thousands more Covid 19 deaths without the stay at home orders by competent Govenors.

This is Class Racer not a political site

pmrphil 04-27-2020 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 613337)
If that is the answer how come New York is in such shambles. They have been under the same stay at home order as the rest of us and it sure didn’t seem to work real well there. The only thing the stay at home order has done is put people out of work and in the poor house. Hopefully our governor will start to ease up on the quarantine so people can get back to work to feed their families and pay their bills.

You would probably understand NYC (and it's issues) a bit better if you had ever used the subway system there. Not even any room for elbows. Many residents don't have cars, no place to park one. WAY too many people in one place.

AC 04-27-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 613317)
The flu season lasts approximately 6 months and it kills about 50,000 people per year in the U.S. Covid-19 has killed close to 55,000 people in a little over 6 weeks! It's like comparing apples and oranges!

no one knows that either

AC 04-27-2020 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 613345)
You would probably understand NYC (and it's issues) a bit better if you had ever used the subway system there. Not even any room for elbows. Many residents don't have cars, no place to park one. WAY too many people in one place.

The demographic breakdown of infections and deaths from the novel coronavirus in New York City mirrors patterns that have emerged around the nation and the world, epidemiologists say, with the elderly, men and some racial minorities among the disease’s most vulnerable victims.

New York state accounts for nearly a third of the nation’s 683,786 cases as of Friday afternoon, according to Johns Hopkins University, which has been tracking the virus. The state has reported 222,284 positive cases and 12,192 deaths.

As per the WSJ

now what is the population of NYC vs the rest of the nation. I was in and out of NYC 3/4 weeks before the shutdown, there is no evidence it has anything to do with our subway system or not driving. Heck i took the train 12 years straight and never got the flu, i have many friends who were on the subway up until the shutdown who are perfectly fine.

And just because its a case doesnt mean death, its like being sick unless you have past illnesses or in bad shape. My grand father is 93 years old and functioning fine.

When this is over it will be proven that shutting down did nothing and if you were healthy you should be out living your life. If you are not healthy or over 65/70 stay home. With the amount of people who they think had the virus know one knows if it just showed up one day in February or March. Open the country and lets live like we are suppose to, if you cant due to health or age then stay home till you feel its right to leave your house. Mental, suicidal, and other deaths will be higher than corona if we sit like this any longer.

Bruce Noland 04-27-2020 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AC (Post 613350)
The demographic breakdown of infections and deaths from the novel coronavirus in New York City mirrors patterns that have emerged around the nation and the world, epidemiologists say, with the elderly, men and some racial minorities among the disease’s most vulnerable victims.

New York state accounts for nearly a third of the nation’s 683,786 cases as of Friday afternoon, according to Johns Hopkins University, which has been tracking the virus. The state has reported 222,284 positive cases and 12,192 deaths.

As per the WSJ

now what is the population of NYC vs the rest of the nation. I was in and out of NYC 3/4 weeks before the shutdown, there is no evidence it has anything to do with our subway system or not driving. Heck i took the train 12 years straight and never got the flu, i have many friends who were on the subway up until the shutdown who are perfectly fine.

And just because its a case doesnt mean death, its like being sick unless you have past illnesses or in bad shape. My grand father is 93 years old and functioning fine.

When this is over it will be proven that shutting down did nothing and if you were healthy you should be out living your life. If you are not healthy or over 65/70 stay home. With the amount of people who they think had the virus know one knows if it just showed up one day in February or March. Open the country and lets live like we are suppose to, if you cant due to health or age then stay home till you feel its right to leave your house. Mental, suicidal, and other deaths will be higher than corona if we sit like this any longer.

You make too many assumptions with nothing but zip and pip. You were in town 3 or 4 weeks before the outbreak and everything was fine, heck you even rode the subway for ten years and never got a bug. That sounds so reassuring when the best medical minds in this country can't figure out this monster. Young men and women are dying from stroke and heart attacks from this virus. It is now attacking other bodily organs and killing people. But you rode the subway. I feel much better now.

Bruce Noland 04-27-2020 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Lasko (Post 613341)
This is Class Racer not a political site

I guess you missed Bart's post. Try to keep up!

Tom Meyer 04-27-2020 10:14 PM

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Over this last weekend they held two dirt races north of Sioux City. No spectators but you could have up to ten crew per car. They had over fifty cars sat and ninety plus sun. It all went off ok. They had safety crew and track personnel there also. It is a start. Are local track had test and tune for 24 cars two sessions all safety procurers were fallowed. Tom

Mike Pearson 04-28-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 613345)
You would probably understand NYC (and it's issues) a bit better if you had ever used the subway system there. Not even any room for elbows. Many residents don't have cars, no place to park one. WAY too many people in one place.


OK so what you are saying the governor of NY and mayor of the city did not do enough to help protect the city? They did not shut down the subway and other mass transit where social distance could not be maintained. I have never been to or plan to go the NYC.

pmrphil 04-28-2020 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 613375)
OK so what you are saying the governor of NY and mayor of the city did not do enough to help protect the city? They did not shut down the subway and other mass transit where social distance could not be maintained. I have never been to or plan to go the NYC.

Wow. Please show me where I said any of that.

Mike Pearson 04-28-2020 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 613383)
Wow. Please show me where I said any of that.

Sorry. I just assumed you were stating that the subways were still in use during the stay at home order in NYC. Do you know if that was the case? You seemed to allude to the fact that the subway was part of the problem there with transmission of the virus because people are packed in there like sardines..

jmcarter 04-28-2020 03:32 PM

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Ok, since we’re not getting much traction talking racing on any thread I’ll throw in my one and only subway story. We stopped in the Boston area on our RV trip last summer. We were en route to PEI with our grandson and he and I took a mid-morning subway ride into Boston Common so he could appreciate the area’s history and get another junior ranger badge. After several hours enjoying the city we went to board the subway around 5:00 PM. You guessed it, jam packed beyond anything I’d ever experienced in Asia, Europe and certainly here in the states. I’ve never been so pressed against others, all nationalities, sexes (think there were more than two) and you’d think at the next stop no one else would be able to board but sure enough more would cram in every time. Must have been 8 or 9 stops before it started to thin out. I’ve read that commuting into large cities is going to be a major hurdle getting everyone back to work and I certainly believe it, no matter how you feel about the pandemic it’s sure going to be a game-changer just like 9/11. Historians are going to have a lot of material to cover just in the last 10 years.

Superfan1 04-28-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AC (Post 613347)
no one knows that either

I guess you know more than the CDC.

pmrphil 04-29-2020 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 613415)
Sorry. I just assumed you were stating that the subways were still in use during the stay at home order in NYC. Do you know if that was the case? You seemed to allude to the fact that the subway was part of the problem there with transmission of the virus because people are packed in there like sardines..

The subways and busses are still running as we speak.

AC 04-29-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pmrphil (Post 613482)
The subways and busses are still running as we speak.

yes they are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPrb...Ys&app=desktop

AC 04-29-2020 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1 (Post 613425)
I guess you know more than the CDC.

never said that but if you look at the numbers and the video i posted above the data is there.

So many of you are steered by the media hype.


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