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Ralph A Powell 09-22-2020 09:34 AM

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Can NHRA survive without Coke? Maybe, Maybe Not. The Coke $$$ 5.6 mil doesn’t sound that much but when add in the lose of the Spector income loss from the tracks NHRA controls, 2 Pomona, Gainesville, Atlanta, Indy US NATIONALS. Income from the % of Spector income from other canceled Nationals events. The add in the expense of Interest on the Atlanta track, the leases on the 2 Pomona races, the Mortgage Payments on IRP. All that amounts to a lot of DOLLARS,

Who know how this will shake out! Time will tell.

MikeMoller 09-22-2020 09:35 AM

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If you think sportsman racers are important to NHRA, just look at what happened in IHRA. And IHRA was not near as top heavy at the top as NHRA.

Daran Summerton 09-22-2020 10:02 AM

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Wish CA had a Stock/Superstock association we would be done with NHRA

R4404 09-22-2020 10:10 AM

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Maybe now is the time for IHRA to step back to the plate?

GUMP 09-22-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Sherwood (Post 624030)
With all the interest in attending national events and the grade point issue, maybe now would be the time for our division reps to push for larger quotas and a change in the grade point structure.

Have you seen the entry list for Gainesville?

Mike Pearson 09-22-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 624035)
Wish CA had a Stock/Superstock association we would be done with NHRA

Get one started. You know how much fun we had in the Southern Stock Super Stock Assn. in Florida when you lived here. Unfortunately for us the SSSSA is dead. We haven't had any races in a couple of years and I don't think there is enough cars left in the area to support it. Maybe next year something might happen??

john ancona 09-22-2020 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TILBURG (Post 624019)
Instead of watching to see if they fail or not. Maybe it would be a good time for the sportsman racers to come together and get something done. Probably a good time to get there attention. As much as you guys have invested in your sport I would think it would be hard to just watch the ship sink.jmo

As long as I have been around ,over forty years there is one thing I have notice, starting when the racers gave up their voting rights with NHRA, they only care about one ship their own !

BRINK 09-22-2020 10:35 AM

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It appears that NHRA has hired two of the best litigators in the USA to pursue this legal action. I for one sincerely hope that our "friends" from Glendora are successful with this litigation. Like it or not, we need a successful sanctioning organization to continue our sport. And, unfortunately, IHRA does not fill the bill. After reading the complaint against Coca Cola, I'm more than a little pissed off that they would try to renege on the agreement that was agreed upon by both parties.
I fervently hope that NHRA prevails in Court, and we can all get back to racing as it used to be.

Frank Castros 09-22-2020 10:48 AM

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The way I see it no matter what happens with the Coke lawsuit, which will be a protracted litigation, the N.H.R.A. as we currently know it is in peril.
Like it or not sportsman racers need the N.H.R.A. infrastructure and maybe this will cause a reorganization and a new and fresh beginning as most of us believe the N.H.R.A. leadership team needs a tune up from the neck up.
I hope the Lucas Oil sponsorship is safe.

GTS340 09-22-2020 11:21 AM

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There were plenty of NHRA members that sent in their membership fees at the beginning of the year,License fees, chassis fees , number fees, you name it fees. Safety equipment expiring. When NHRA needs the sportsman racers to show up for a show. The pits are full of hotrods, show quality cars and engineering at its finest. About time NHRA pays the sportsman racers back. The fees go up but the purses haven't moved in decades.

Paul Haszlauer
C/SA 7019

340Cuda 09-22-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hanig (Post 623969)
The only thing they have touched Is their pay, which looks to in the GM range.

GM CEO Mary Barra received $21.6 million in compensation last year, so not even close...

Paul Sarvas 09-22-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 624011)
Surprised someone has not stated Trumps fault.

Surprised someone has not stated it's the Democrats fault.

Bobby Lundholm 09-22-2020 12:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 624035)
Wish CA had a Stock/Superstock association we would be done with NHRA

We had 69 cars at our Great Lakes Stock Super Stock series this past weekend.

BKSG1198 09-22-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Lundholm (Post 624055)
We had 69 cars at our Great Lakes Stock Super Stock series this past weekend.

You had 133 cars at the class nationals at Numidia and 160 at the .90 Nationals & Top Shootout at Maple Grove....just those two events alone almost have more then the sportsman count at Gainesville / Atlanta Sportsman Nationals, I think at cutoff it was Only 33 in Stock & SS, 27 in SC, 28 in SG, 32 in SST, 15 in TS and 21 in TD, yes I know a lot of other events going on, Double in St. Louis and D1 in Maple but, just seems to be some bad scheduling and communication. Both the .90 Race and Class Nationals events were created over a span of 5 to 7 weeks with the focus of the racers in mind. Yes, I know, it may never happen again because this was such an off year but, you treat the racers right and respect, you make that lasting impression and they come back...It's the #1 rule in any customer service job. The interesting thing is in 2021 if Ken & Tim decide to do another, if the counts will be the same saying we go back to "Normal". I hope it gets bigger and the people that missed it this year have it marked on their calendars for 2021....could you imagine what they could do with a years time to get products and promote the events. I'll be honest and I took some heat for it, I didn't think what Tim and Ken did at Numidia could be done, I've been there and done that in 2013 with my own Stock/SS race since Lee & Brian were moving to PS and always got the excuse of "the Hills, The Drive, The DA is 4,000 feet, I don't go fast" but, they knocked it out of the park, actually all of us did....so kudos to them both and the staff they assembled to hand out prizes and cash. I've already been contacted to do another .90 Nationals at Maple Grove for 2021, now it's just waiting to see where all the dates drop which I'm hearing won't be announced till November. So hopefully Ken and Tim are thinking the same for 2021 also.

What will happen with NHRA, who knows, they could go the route of NASCAR and have multiple partners instead of just one. I think NASCAR has Busch, Coke, Geico and Xfinity as their partners. Just whatever happens it will have an impact not only on the National and Divisional level but, weekly programs also "IF" NHRA goes down, we all hope it doesn't but, what concerned me was when he said we're financially stable for 2021, my question is what about 2022 and 2023 when the contract was still active with Coke, what if they don't find a sponsor by then? I've seen that a few people said that it's time for IHRA to make a comeback, I think IHRA is happy just where they are, they tried the 2 races in a weekend, $5,000 to win races and got no support for it, which is a darn right shame, why would you jump back into the shark tank after being bitten already.

Was Happy to see Mike D. and that group have a great turnout and I hear Mike's heading East to come play with the D1 crowd this weekend at Maple Grove. We'll have the cheesesteak and tasty cakes waiting for you pal (If anyone doesn't know Mike and my Dad grew up together in NJ)!

RNNChrisbarnes 09-22-2020 02:02 PM

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https://dragnews.com.au/nhra-and-cam...-hypothetical/

john ancona 09-22-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 624024)
I read the law suit. It says that Coke told NHRA in 2019 they wanted to bail early. NHRA told them this year they could pro rate the payment, but they missed the complete May payment of half the 5.2 mil.

Apparently Coke also had to reduce the quota also ! Their quota of cash to the to Top heavy Management !

Rat Raceway 09-22-2020 02:14 PM

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Saw this today...

Interesting!

KennyAnderson 09-22-2020 02:59 PM

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THIS would be fantastic news! With pits all across the country filled with RV's, LQ trailers, Campers, Etc it could be a natural!

BKSG1198 09-22-2020 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat Raceway (Post 624066)
Saw this today...

Interesting!

I saw this earlier this morning, if it is true that would be a huge boost and very smart move. Almost everyone has RV's and needs supplies from there, offer a discount the NHRA members at these locations. Just hope the higher ups don't try to ask for too much and boot the deal.

Bobby DiDomenico 09-22-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BKSG1198 (Post 624059)

What will happen with NHRA, who knows, they could go the route of NASCAR and have multiple partners instead of just one. I think NASCAR has Busch, Coke, Geico and Xfinity as their partners. Just whatever happens it will have an impact not only on the National and Divisional level but, weekly programs also "IF" NHRA goes down, we all hope it doesn't but, what concerned me was when he said we're financially stable for 2021, my question is what about 2022 and 2023 when the contract was still active with Coke, what if they don't find a sponsor by then?

I recall watching the "Sprint Cup" NASCAR races and wondering how much penalty money was involved every time the TV commentators only said "and the CUP cars" leaving off title sponsor "Sprint." The folks putting up all the dollar$$$$$$! If it was written correctly NASCAR would've been paying them money!😁

Jeff Stout 09-22-2020 03:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Sarvas (Post 624052)
Surprised someone has not stated it's the Democrats fault.

You forgot my words {insert sarcasm}. Funny how that changes someones statement. Your champion Biden stated Trump killed 200k Now its 200M. My statement was sarcasm as stated before. But facts speak from dems seem to prove it was Trumps fault. ( no sarcasm)

Gary Smith 09-22-2020 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Daran Summerton (Post 624035)
Wish CA had a Stock/Superstock association we would be done with NHRA

Hey Daran, talk to Tony and/or Phil Mandella Jr. They have organized a couple races already and have been trying to put an organization together for at least a few years. The SSSSA framework was excellent, you should discuss your experience.

Superpro 09-22-2020 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 624074)
You forgot my words {insert sarcasm}. Funny how that changes someones statement. Your champion Biden stated Trump killed 200k Now its 200M. My statement was sarcasm as stated before. But facts speak from dems seem to prove it was Trumps fault. ( no sarcasm)

With all due respect, I'm glad not to have any skin in this game. I say sincerely, good luck to in your elections, no matter your color or stripe.

JHeath 09-22-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by r4404 (Post 624037)
maybe now is the time for ihra to step back to the plate?

who ?

CMcAllister 09-22-2020 07:24 PM

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I find it surprising that the series sponsorship is only worth about the same as the yearly budget (I'm guessing) of one decent fuel team.

Trump hasn't killed anyone. I can deal with people having different opinions, but the blatant BS and subversion is frustrating. This is not the fault of Democrats or Republicans. It falls squarely in the lap of the Communists in China. Now we can argue that there are those in this country who have tried to use the situation to gain money, power, influence and/or an advantage over the opposition.

I'm just hoping to get through the election and go into 2021 in a position to see a robust recovery, optimism for the future, law and order restored and people anxious and able to get out and live their lives again.

MAURICE BLENDHEIM 09-23-2020 12:25 AM

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I'm going to start a protest. No more CocaCola with Chinese Food for me. Together we can make a difference. MB

4284spd 09-23-2020 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Superpro (Post 624087)
With all due respect, I'm glad not to have any skin in this game. I say sincerely, good luck to in your elections, no matter your color or stripe.

LOL, the whole world has skin in this election! US falls, so does the rest of the world!

SS/1230 09-23-2020 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RNNChrisbarnes (Post 624063)

Interesting.

Makes complete sense though.. especially since majority of the racers have motorhomes. That could be great if at national events they have camping world rep there or a trailer set up.. Imagine all the things that they could sell in midway to the motorhome owners? Trailer/camper and moho (motorhome) accessories? Outdoor grilling accessories, have rv displays set up to go in if you are in the market, maintenance parts, generators (or parts), the list goes on.. Multiply that by 24 national events? Camping world could hit a home run getting into business with NHRA.

Fontana
SS/1230

jmcarter 09-23-2020 08:12 AM

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While true CW could probably sell some parts on the midway they don’t particularly enjoy a sterling reputation with the RV crowd. However, if they signed on I’d probably shop more with them. I’m all for supporting companies that provide support to my passions and the country. I’m guilty of buying too much from Amazon anyway.

novassdude 09-23-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 624110)
While true CW could probably sell some parts on the midway they don’t particularly enjoy a sterling reputation with the RV crowd. However, if they signed on I’d probably shop more with them. I’m all for supporting companies that provide support to my passions and the country. I’m guilty of buying too much from Amazon anyway.

I am guessing Marcus Lemonis took one look at what Coca-Cola was paying and figured that's a drop in the bucket for great exposure for his company.

rognelson777 09-23-2020 09:35 AM

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sportsman at national events, why they are still there. it is a multi part marketing and business plan, not just the national event entry fee. sportsman need to run national events for points toward championship, and also for sponsors and racing on a national stage, maybe even a mention on a national tv broadcast. how do you get to race at that national event, spend lots of money racing divisional events, which nhra gets a percentage of. as most business owners know, repeat customers is where you make your money. so even if they only make $100 net profit off you at national event, you probably went to 5 divisionals and they made another $500 plus license fee, plus membership fee, plus chassis cert fee

Superpro 09-23-2020 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 4284spd (Post 624107)
LOL, the whole world has skin in this election! US falls, so does the rest of the world!

I guess what I meant with that comment is that I don't have to resort to red vs blue opinions on a drag race forum. As a non partisan in this event, I'll just watch it unfold. It is quite disconcerting however, to see the dissension that has reached the racing climate. Excuse me, the microwave is buzzing, popcorn is ready!

ssracer3821 09-23-2020 11:17 AM

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In August 2017, Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis told supporters of President Donald Trump not to shop in his stores. FACT!

Glenn Briglio 09-23-2020 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ssracer3821 (Post 624126)
In August 2017, Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis told supporters of President Donald Trump not to shop in his stores. FACT!

Yupp I remember that!

Lenny5160 09-23-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ssracer3821 (Post 624126)
In August 2017, Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis told supporters of President Donald Trump not to shop in his stores. FACT!

I guess you could say that he told SOME supporters of Trump not to shop in his stores, depending on their stance on a single topic.

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ter-trumps-ch/

Gary Smith 09-23-2020 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ssracer3821 (Post 624126)
In August 2017, Camping World CEO Marcus Lemonis told supporters of President Donald Trump not to shop in his stores. FACT!

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/marc...-business.html

Bpozzi 09-23-2020 12:45 PM

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CAN WE PLEASE LEAVE POLITICAL BS OFF THIS THREAD??!!!! Some of us, a small percentage of us are still in our 30’s, we still have years and years of drag racing in front of us. If NHRA folds, you may hate them, but that would be a BIG problem for us that want to do this for a long time ahead of us. I understand many of you are nearing the age of leaving the sport and could care less of the greedy machine that is NHRA, but remember when you were in your 30’s and were afforded a place to go race safely ..... back in the good ol days. Well like or not NHRA is the only sanctioning body in town that has classracers and that gives us exposure to maybe pick up a sponsor to help fund this insane hobby.

If Marcus Lemonis wants to give his money to NHRA and keep the sport thriving, I could care two sh*** what he said or how he feels. Camping world is a decent place to buy RV parts and let’s face it, a national event with 200 or so RV’s would be a marketing goldmine.

rognelson777 09-23-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bpozzi (Post 624142)
CAN WE PLEASE LEAVE POLITICAL BS OFF THIS THREAD??!!!!
If Marcus Lemonis wants to give his money to NHRA and keep the sport thriving, I could care two sh*** what he said or how he feels. Camping world is a decent place to buy RV parts and let’s face it, a national event with 200 or so RV’s would be a marketing goldmine.

I do not want companies or their bosses, managers to make political statements. Marcus did not call out Joe Biden or Kamala Harris when they said about BLM, there are good protesters out there, only a few bad eggs. Kind of the same comment Trump Made. My 2 cents

Lew Silverman 09-23-2020 01:11 PM

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Yeah, I may be old, but as long as I'm still breathing I'll care about Drag Racing, so please don't count me (or any of the other passionate seniors) out just yet! Thanks!


I've been a supported of Camping World (and the Good Sam Club) since the Bowling Green location let us use their parking lot as overflow for the WWCS event at Beech Bend in 1977! I've never owned an RV.



I have always believed that you have to support the people who support you, plain and simple. Without that, they aren't going to be around long. I gave up smoking Marlboro's and started using Winston's when they sponsored our races, and Lucas Oil Products lubricate my fleet! I even started drinking Mello Yello, when I could find it! Maybe now would be a good time to cultivate some "non-Automotive" sponsors on the National Level for 2021?

Jeff Johnson 09-23-2020 01:13 PM

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Lemonis is not a well liked person amongst camping people he would make things a bigger cluster then it is already.


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