Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Stock of course!

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Daren, REALLY? You know darned well that there's a WORLD of difference between what the OEMs are doing and selling today vs.1969! A new COPO isn't even remotely close to what's going through the Dealer's doors. And OBTW, I AM old enough to have been able to see '69 COPOs sitting on Dealer's lots.
Am I missing something?

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

All the stuff thats allowed in Stock and (going on) you guys are worried about another COPO combination LOL let it in whats the difference now lol. Its the Camaros last year.

Better yet just make stock a 9 inch tire class and correct cubic inch and part numbers for the year and make claimed, and anything else goes .


Oh wait that is what STOCK is already never mind lol!!!

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

John made a very good point when he said, "Whole different time and tech..."

That has been my point since these new cars first appeared in 2008. They are exactly what you get if you build a new car according to the current rules. Which is also exactly how we got COPO Camaros in 1969.

I have two cars that I am running that have the production block, head castings, and rockers. They also run with true hydraulic lifters and beehive springs. How many Stock Racers can still say that?

I have said over and over that I feel some combinations probably shouldn't have made the cut.

You only miss what you refuse to see...

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Actually, I had a post in tech but it hasn't had much interest.
It's not even a 9 inch tire class anymore.Only Gump so far seems to know what I'm talking about.lol.

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Yeh saw that.

Well love it , hate it , bitch about it (guilty) , its still the most fun you can have on 4 wheels. There's nothing like pulling in the lanes getting paired up on the ladder seeing all the badass cars. :)

Remember you gotta have fun and enjoy it !!

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Not too many will talk about the large 9… easy to spot but There were blind eyes !
A factory race car with a factory race motor and 4 link should not be in stock period.

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Gump, not throwing darts at you! We race what they tell us we can race.

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Not taken that way at all. I think that these are conversations worth having.

In 2010 I got one of the first Body-In-White Camaros. At that time I tried to work with Chevrolet to put a torque arm in it. Knowing that whatever the NHRA approved would be the standard going ahead, I didn't want to rock the boat by going directly to them myself. It was my thought that the torque arm would be the least controversial option. Obviously, that did not go my way.

That said, the four link is nowhere near as forgiving as a torque arm set-up.

The precedent had already been set for the Corvettes to run a solid rear. So, the NHRA had to allow something. I really don't see the four link as any great advantage.

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

I'm not exactly sure what all the hub-bub is about. Why would anyone care what combinations the NHRA allows? unless it's a heads up, it is just bracket racing.

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

That's why we run class, we love heads up runs. At least I do.

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Regarding 4 link. …I get to crew chief a 2006 Haas GTO Pro Stock car in Top Sportsman. My partner and I have done pretty well and I’ve got to say, it’s all in the 4 link, front and rear shock settings. It doesn’t hurt to have a great driver/partner either but my point is that the chassis tuning has helped my stocker too!

QUOTE=GUMP;673882]Not taken that way at all. I think that these are conversations worth having.

In 2010 I got one of the first Body-In-White Camaros. At that time I tried to work with Chevrolet to put a torque arm in it. Knowing that whatever the NHRA approved would be the standard going ahead, I didn't want to rock the boat by going directly to them myself. It was my thought that the torque arm would be the least controversial option. Obviously, that did not go my way.

That said, the four link is nowhere near as forgiving as a torque arm set-up.

The precedent had already been set for the Corvettes to run a solid rear. So, the NHRA had to allow something. I really don't see the four link as any great advantage.[/QUOTE]

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

Not the same thing at all. There is nowhere near as much adjustment in the Stockers. You also don't have all that tire...

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

I realize that, stuck verses wheel speed . Still- Your car has adjustments that the conventional car doesn’t. Big tires aren’t always the answer. And then there’s power management early. Your cars have a huge advantage tuning over conventional even with the digital/ Grid.

Think I’ll ask for a Tesla in A/

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 

When I compare my combo to others I check the ratio between cu in and the factored HP rating. My ratio is 0.90 HP per Cu In. Some in my same class are rated at 0.75 hp per cu in. So there is no way I can compete with that. My combo is a flat top with a q jet. Given that the 632 should have at least a 570 hp rating. Now remember that engine probably has a very high compression ratio and CNC ported heads. So it might need to be a bit higher than a 0.90 ratio.