Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

On that website the next line says its a subsidiary of Summit

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

That's what it seems. According to Bloomburg Summit is a business name for Autosales Inc. A-Tech is a wholesale division of Summit.

The question is why these bearings? Were they supposed to be good?

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Those are clevite 77 bearings and yes I've received several sets like this. But usually they are opened in box. Also have received them with a rough inside surface.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

They're Clevite, Atech is Summit's wholesale parts warehouse. If you think I'm sourcing Chinese parts you should go back and refresh yourself with this build.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

And as a reference to "nice stuff" this did make me laugh, since all your stuff is as nice as the nicest.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Jeg's sold wholsale under the name Buckeye Sales going back many years.

Summit has used the A-Tech name for years as well and sells std parts and accessories to various places and sends out retail catalogs


Dan Fletcher featured the brand years ago.....on his cars...

I bought a lot of stuff from Buckeye sales back in the 1980's...and Joe Amato's Keystone Warehouse was another big supplier o parts.....they sold to everyone and delivered every day and probably still do.....in my area...

When local speed shops that we bought from on a wholesale level slowly went under...

The big guys survived....

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

I check it daily. Don't be offended. It's very easy to wind up with Chinese made goods without regards to the name on the box. I think my Eagle crank is machined in America from a blank cast in China or Korea. The new Tacoma Narrows bridge near here is Korean steel. Nothing comparable is available from US manufactures. What a shame.


I have King rod bearings and piston rings. Seems to be a US based company. Clevite makes my mains. They are Mahle which is a German company. Very good product.


Good luck getting your mill back up and running.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

This looks like a return that just got put back on the shelf without inspecting it....

I am sure that A-Tech would want to know about the problem..

They have always been a good company to work with in the past...

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

What was the manufacturing date on the bearings? I agree with Bob, these had to be parts that were returned to A-Tech.


See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Dude.......:rolleyes:

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Bob, thats exactly what Atech claimed "it may have been a return". I've just never seen bearings loosely packaged like that before.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

I'll see if they're still at the shop and check, may have gone back already.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

King bearings made in Israel.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Simple case of a set Clevite H series bearing out of their original packaging, lets move on to flow numbers and dyno data, and finally track testing data. If you have instant oil to the top of the engine at the hit of pre lubing, thats something you better fix.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Lesson learned.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Sorry I been neglecting all this but that pesk job has really been getting in the way! Oh look, bearings in proper packaging!
https://i.imgur.com/EUjYGBth.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2aq84Yih.jpg

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

VP C-12 is the DEVIL! Heads are rusted like crazy, had to pound some of the exhaust valves off the seat, real bad. Little work on the heads today, going to throw everthing in the washer next week.
https://i.imgur.com/XGDt8hgh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lRdCPmQh.jpg

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Todd I have brand set of standard rod bearings child & Albert's that have been polydyn coated if you want them? They are free to you

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Every time I shut my cars down for any length of time after using C-12, I fog the motor. That means to fire it up, open the throttle with the engine running and put a couple ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil or even plain old ATF down the carb. When a puff of smoke appears out the headers,shut it off. The oily film prevents rust from appearing on the valve faces and seats and the cylinder walls. C-12 is a very dry fuel and it leaves metal surfaces unprotected from humidity in the atmosphere causing rust. I imagine Florida has more than its share of humidity year round.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

C11 is faster, fog motor with WD-40 after engine cools down use starter button open throttle blades crank it over for about 10 seconds works good in Florida.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Thank you Nick, I have a set now so I'm all good.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

I'm not sure I trust it. Rusty within a couple days inside an air conditioned building, I may just change fuel.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Thanks Kenny, I had been warned about it, didn't realize it would be this bad.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Todd, we see some rust issues with C12 if the engine hasn't been run for a while. C11 is a 'drier' fuel, for lack of a better term, so things can rust even quicker.

Fogging with Marvel Mystery Oil, ATF, Stabil fogging oil, etc. works well. -Al

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Thanks Al, Keith Bennet warned me about it up front, I didn't fog it. I'll have to fog it or change fuels all together.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Sunoco fuels are better in that aspect.Petroleum based.Wd40 will dry up over a couple of months.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

we have used Marine type of aerosol Fogging never any problems---FED 387

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Caps are off the rods, rings on the pistons and hope to have the block and heads in the washer today/tomorrow.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Cast iron heads rust very quickly and easily especially around the exhaust valves. All the after race smog techniques mentioned are good. One more that helps is to cap your headers at the collectors. The plastic caps used on threaded pipe works well if you can find a size that fits. Large Electrical conduit or black pipe sometimes has caps that fit. My buddy was an electrician foreman on big jobs and had those caps off his job sites.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

I use styrofoam coffee cups.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

We use nerf balls

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Yes, the rust was everywhere but worse near heat, around the plug and exhaust valve.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Everything is cleaned, heads are back together, crank is in the block.
https://i.imgur.com/32e0zDC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/C5uridM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wcsLXXA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GgwvjqO.jpg

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Rods and pistons are in, heads are on, studs and guide plates are in.
https://i.imgur.com/g90XJdQl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/shDirHch.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mjojvh9h.jpg

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

After awhile you'll notice main cap walk even with studs.Only cure is 4 bolt mains.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

My initial plan was to use this one as a spare, at this point I'm wondering if it will ever run long enough to even be that.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Glenn, I'm also moving the pickup. This is how it was, nearly 3/4.
https://i.imgur.com/p8svPl1h.jpg

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

Ran for parts today and made it to this point, tomorrow starts the search for the perfect lifter/restrictor combination.
https://i.imgur.com/6i0IqHi.jpg

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

DO NOT try to restrict the oil with the pushrods, that will not work. It must be done through the lifters.

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 

What's the difference? seems like the end result would be the same.