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Dan Fahey 05-03-2012 02:49 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 324652)
Great post Dan. Of course though, the Impala SS is near and dear to my heart. :D That's what I ran my in when I lived in NC before I sold it to Corbitt.

I've recently picked up a C5 and since Crandall is IHRA once again that is the direction I'm heading. It's a very soft index (according to what a Corvette is capable of running) and I think I can easily cover it with a cold-air intake kit and mail-order tune. I plan to mount some drag radials on OEM wheels so that the car looks completely stock. I just got the car and am heading to Ennis for the Super Chevy next weekend to run it stock and get a baseline. From what I've read it may almost run the number!

I know Pure Stock car counts aren't high, but to keep from having a truck and trailer, as well as to keep racing costs down (this is my daily driver) I still like the class and don't care if it's in NHRA or not. Yes, it would fun to own/drive a late-model Stocker but I personally don't have the time or money to invest in that much of an endeavor.
WOW.. That was a good car.
Corbitt and his son got a best of 12.36 out of the car on a cold day as a Pure Stocker.

If you are interested have an Edge 3600 for the 4L60E.
The SS ran a best 1.70 60 foot and 13.27 full weight with ECIRS as HoBo.
Hurt the engine last year, fixed it up.
Since engine was out installed a 3800 Yank.

Ran the Edge for 1 1/2 seasons. Works perfectly.
FWIW You will need the 1-2 Shift Fix Tune for the 4L60E to use it with ODB1 PCM.
I use Bryan Herter at PCMFORLESS for my tunes

Let me know if you are interested.

Dan

Tar Heel 05-03-2012 04:33 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Yes, that was a good car and I believe they still have it. Best part of that car was that I bought it at a used car lot, completely stock with over 100,000 miles, in Morehead City, NC to use as a daily driver while I was building a big cubic inch 10" tire '66 Chevelle. Very slowly, the Chevelle got pushed in the corner of the garage. I put a K&N CAI on the car along with a Flowmaster catback and it was all downhill from there. The best I ever ran I believe was in the 12.60 range and that was 100% street legal and IHRA Pure Stock legal. Corbitt had the Warrens do an engine and really stepped on it.

Thanks for the info on the TC. I'm not ready for one yet. From listening to the Corvette crowd the best tuner for the money is East Coast Superchargers. They get some pretty amazing results for a mail-order. I had a bad experience with BH with the Impala but that's neither here nor there ...

Good luck with the Impala and keep the heavy beast going! Those are super cars! Maybe we'll meet up someday at a points meet ...

Charlie A 05-03-2012 04:35 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
I remember running Pure Stock as a kid (late 60's). Our local track ran you off the stock records just like the regular racecars. There was no index or records to base it all from for the Pure Stockers so this worked pretty well.
I had a 64 Malibu, 220 horse( I think ) 283 and a glide. M/PSA.

Be cool to see something like that again.

Dan Fahey 05-03-2012 04:58 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tar Heel (Post 324673)
Yes, that was a good car and I believe they still have it. Best part of that car was that I bought it at a used car lot, completely stock with over 100,000 miles, in Morehead City, NC to use as a daily driver while I was building a big cubic inch 10" tire '66 Chevelle. Very slowly, the Chevelle got pushed in the corner of the garage. I put a K&N CAI on the car along with a Flowmaster catback and it was all downhill from there. The best I ever ran I believe was in the 12.60 range and that was 100% street legal and IHRA Pure Stock legal. Corbitt had the Warrens do an engine and really stepped on it.

Thanks for the info on the TC. I'm not ready for one yet. From listening to the Corvette crowd the best tuner for the money is East Coast Superchargers. They get some pretty amazing results for a mail-order. I had a bad experience with BH with the Impala but that's neither here nor there ...

Good luck with the Impala and keep the heavy beast going! Those are super cars! Maybe we'll meet up someday at a points meet ...
Tar Heal..
NP..cool...Yanks and Edge seem to do well in the Impalas
Yanks are Billiet and bit more expensive but perform a little better than the Edge.

Contact me at danfahey@dansources.com 301-217-0425 x 400
Need to ask a few technical questions.

Heading to Richmond IHRA race Tomorrow for the weekend.

BTW check out www.ECIRS.org.
Our Impala/B-Body Racing Series

Dan Fahey

GarysZ24 05-03-2012 09:46 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 324430)
Aviation gas ? ? ? Where have I been hiding ? ? I thought its been at least 30 years since we've been allowed to use it ..............
I recall being able to use Av gas as recently as the late 90's, and possibly the early 2k's. I can't speak for you, but I was running it when I started racing stock elim. back in '95 (in Denver), and it had to be legal still because I went to Noble, Ok. in '96, and was using it. I remember (sort-of) NHRA putting the clamps on anything other than specified fuels sometime between y2k, and 2004, but several racers in D5 were using it back in the 90's, and that's only been 13-17yrs ago. I don't know what to say Jack....

ALMACK 05-03-2012 09:50 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
This is about as far as NHRA got with the Pure Stock idea:

http://www.nhra.net/2004/news/june/062202.html

GarysZ24 05-03-2012 10:10 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ALMACK (Post 324489)
Quoted from the IHRA website:

"Pure Stock entries may utilize OEM unleaded blends meeting the rulebook specifications."


From the IHRA rulebook:

B: New dielectric constant (D.C.) of the gasoline must not exceed +1 for the following
classes: Top Dragster, Top Sportsman, and Super Stock.
The dielectric constant (D.C.) of
gasoline for Stock will remain at +2.3.


Just curious...anyone know what the dielectric constant of 91 octane unleaded is ?
I don't, but I think it's time to make some calls, because if I can run something other than regular racing fuel, it'll save my modest racing budget a nice sum of money!!! Given that other organizations are starting to allow unleaded fuels to help clean up the environment, it would also benefit us that way too....I'm interested! :)

ALMACK 05-04-2012 09:48 AM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GarysZ24 (Post 324722)
I don't, but I think it's time to make some calls, because if I can run something other than regular racing fuel, it'll save my modest racing budget a nice sum of money!!! Given that other organizations are starting to allow unleaded fuels to help clean up the environment, it would also benefit us that way too....I'm interested! :)
^^ I Agree.

I was always under the impression that racing fuel was much better than pump gas, so why would someone not be able to use a fuel that makes less power ?

Bob Pagano 05-04-2012 09:53 AM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
At the rate nhra is letting Stockers turn into SS it wont be long before its 1973 again and your pure stock will be in style again !

Hemi Moose 05-04-2012 07:16 PM
Re: Pure Stocker Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Pagano (Post 324788)
At the rate nhra is letting Stockers turn into SS it wont be long before its 1973 again and your pure stock will be in style again !
Maybe that's their plan? How long before all Stockers & Super Stockers become Modified production race cars again...remember those days.


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