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Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's

Sounds like Bristol may get removed from a few bucket lists. Cannot blame any racer for refusing to ever return to a track as bad as that. But then some racers seem to have a short memory. Next year's attendence numbers will tell the story there.

As for Columbus...many racers said they would never race there again. When word got out that Div 3 had switched to VHT, racers showed up. The track was great. Stock had 102 cars and S/S had 97. Talk all you want about VP vs VHT but Columbus has gone from snotty to sticky by switching to VHT.

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Originally Posted by Denny Steward (Post 349686)

Bo,
I can tell you its not the first time the track was unsafe for racing. The last points race they held there the left lane was total junk. I watched the five cars in front of blow the tires off, Joe Tysinger was right in front of me and almost took the tree out. At that point I shut my car off in the water and my wife checks the lane the bald spots were bigger than my car. She shows the starter he calls the tower and they told him to run us, at this point I am not very happy. I said I wouldnt run till they fixed it and and there answer was if I didnt stage I was out. So I stage let go of the button and the car spins the worst it ever has. The rest was not so pretty but when I was done at least the rest of the cars behind me had a track they could race on. They just dont get it that we are paying customers and deserve better

Denny,
I was in the stands when you did that. I hate it came to that, but looking back that is my favorite Bristol memory.

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The right lane for Stock in Indianapolis was total crap. Big bald spots everywhere.

A lot of racers got eliminated because of a bad track, and nothing to do with cars or drivers as racing should be.

It is one thing to get beaten by a faster car, or a better rt, but when you pay money and all they give you to run is a crap lane, that just isn't racing.

I absolutely don't understand how that can go on at a National event. But it did!

David
The New Hemi Guy

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I went right down the middle 11 times, using both lanes, on 10 inch tires with about 800 HP. Launched at 4400 in S/ST and 5400 in 10.0, never spun. Maybe the weight (3230#) was a favorable factor.

I know we have a lot of "hitters" complaining here, but that's just not the track I experienced. Flame away.

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9 inch tires
close to 3800 lbs
Short of 600 hp
launch less than 3000 rpm

Your dad can beat up my dad any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241 (Post 349847)

Wasn't there a time that Gainesville traction sucked on bracket nights because of VP? What are they using now, it's been a while since I've been there.

As for some cars working well, there are lots of variables in the chassis, including tuning for a marginal track. My compliments to your set-up. But when people go to a national or divisional race and spend quite a bit of money, the expectations are higher. Often they are met, but then the occasional disregard for proper prep causes the obvious issues. I run radials all the time and I can't remember the last time I had ongoing issues at an IHRA event. I found that at local races I do have problems because their prep isn't as thorough and radials are more "sensitive". That's expected so I add weight and make the best of it. But issues at any national or divisional event are inexcusable. Why should I spend even more time and money to make up for someone else's deficiencies and/or laziness? If I pay for a 5 star hotel, I expect that level of service. If I pay for a 3 star motel, I go in expecting less. This isn't meant as a slam on local tracks/events, even though some can do better. But the smaller tracks don't have the resources that a national or divisional event SHOULD have. Yet, there are some local tracks with traction that put some of these nationals and divisionals to shame on a CONSISTENT basis! Pun intended! :p

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Originally Posted by Rollins_2241 (Post 349847)

What kind of converter you have in that thing?

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Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker.

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3200 lbs @800hp 10.0 sounds slow for that hp and weight . Not disputing anything but just seems slow for the power. My stocker would not leave the line at 3000rpm with 8 degrees of timing pulled out for 1.75 seconds

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill (Post 349860)

Throttle stop, 1.76 power glide , soft converter, a lot different than a stocker or super stocker.

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL