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Ed Wright 02-14-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 420673)
Bill I know of some 1400 HP FWD cars that use ATF in their differentials They have a 170 plus trap speed.
Could be the gears are cut differently (Not Hypoid?). But they use it I know.

Think load from car weight could be part of it too?

Bill Edgeworth 02-14-2014 09:14 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 420678)
Think load from car weight could be part of it too?

Yes, just equates back to pressure on the gear face. And what Art mentioned how the gears are cut can affect both how much the gears must actually slide against each other and the actual amount of contact area they have. As for a 1400 hp FWD car using ATF could it be due to necessity as the transmission and differential share the same oil?

art leong 02-14-2014 10:06 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 420678)
Think load from car weight could be part of it too?

Ed I'm pretty sure the way the gears are cut for a RWD application is the difference. Our ring and pinions make contact in a completely different area.

art leong 02-14-2014 10:08 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Edgeworth (Post 420682)
Yes, just equates back to pressure on the gear face. And what Art mentioned how the gears are cut can affect both how much the gears must actually slide against each other and the actual amount of contact area they have. As for a 1400 hp FWD car using ATF could it be due to necessity as the transmission and differential share the same oil?

Yes they share the same oil.

tommy d 02-15-2014 11:34 AM

Re: Differential heater
 
I have a bunch of free Valvoline 75/140 synthetic gear lube that I would like to try. We have a Dana 60 and have had 0 problems in 9 years of hard racing so I'm afraid to change anything. What do you guys think? Just looking for consistency. We now use 80/90 conventional.

Damn Yankee 04-03-2014 05:50 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 420564)
A few years back I went to a T&T, drained out the RP and put in the JG.My buddy brought his car we made a pass together he lost a hun.from his previous run (DA was the same) and I picked up 2.I left it in for another few races. I know some guys run it in B&C cars (12 bolt).Mine is a 10 bolt btw. gsa612

gsa, which JG oil were you using for your differential? I was looking at their website and they list the L9 thru L11, the L11 being their qualifying oil which they say can be used for short periods of time.

Mike Pearson 04-03-2014 06:06 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 420742)
I have a bunch of free Valvoline 75/140 synthetic gear lube that I would like to try. We have a Dana 60 and have had 0 problems in 9 years of hard racing so I'm afraid to change anything. What do you guys think? Just looking for consistency. We now use 80/90 conventional.

I use it in my Dana and the gears last literally for ever. I am sure I get way over 1000 runs and have never had one fail with the auto trans. I did try some lighter oil and the gear wore out fast. No improvement in ET with the lighter oil so I went back to the Valvoline synthetic.

randy wilson 04-04-2014 09:22 PM

Re: Differential heater
 
I don't know if what I do works or not, but it makes me feel good about it. Here goes. I run 1\2 quart synthetic auto trans fluid, 1\2 quart 50 wt. synthetic racing motor oil, and 1 quart synthetic 80\90 gear lube. We put over 100 runs on a 6.20 gear before changing gears. Mostly 1\8th mile. A stick car leaving at 9,200, weighing 3040 lbs. The only thing I see that's changed is we used to get about 150, to 170 runs on a nodular center section then an aluminum through bolt. Anyone ran into that? Makes me wonder if the nodular might actually take less drag because of distortion. I never run it low.


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