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Alan Nyhus 11-29-2016 07:30 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd Hoven (Post 521045)
Build it, run it, and enjoy! Welcome to stock. Get under it under the index and go from there.
Good advice, right there. :) -Al

ALMACK 11-29-2016 07:32 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
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Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 521064)
As Larry indicated plus the Vegas Divisional in November had a full field and some pretty quick cars were on the sideline after qualifying...but if you're in Tampa then Vegas might not be in your plans. One big advantage of a stick combo is the lower likelihood of a heads up but in any case if you plan on going up to Bristol in the heat then you better be .4 under in order to run the index (no altitude adjustment for Bristol anymore). World of difference in cost to build a .2-.3 under car than a 1.0 under one.
^^ I agree.

I calculated the cost ( including the cost of the car itself) to get my newer model Mustang to run 2 tenths under the K/SA index.
Then I added up all the "good stuff" needed to run 9 tenths under and it doubled the price.
7 tenths doubled the cost
:eek:

james schaechter 11-30-2016 06:16 AM
Re: How far under index?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddie (Post 521021)
I know at National events qualifying is based on how far under the index you can go, but how far under do you really need to be to be competitive?


We have done quite a bit of work to the car inclusive of all the legal and accepted chassis mods, and have it right at weight, with a beefed up rear, good axles and a gear we think is right for now. I know a 5 speed car is at a disadvantage over the automatics but this is what I have to work with and I LOVE driving the 5 speed.
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The only people that will tell you that a stick is a disadvantage are people that race automatics or haven't raced stickshifts in many many years. The equipment in terms of clutches and transmission choices are excellent! A car can be set up to run rounds without having to dive into the bellhousing either. There are some considerations when building a stick car, especially with drivetrain, but as far as driving and winning, they are competitive and way more fun! There is not a lot of money to be had racing so you damn better have fun! LOL. Welcome!

Ron Ortiz 11-30-2016 10:53 AM
Re: How far under index?
 
Forget the drama and heartbreak of qualifying. Go out and get a 302 FFFord, put a stick in it and you will qualify very well.

If that is not your choice, then just bust your butt with what you have and listen to people who say work on your stuff.

Or, do what you want and have fun.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA did I say have fun

Jeff Teuton 11-30-2016 01:07 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Fatherly advice from someone with not enough sense to quit. Run your car, lots of little things you can do without major expense. Get a golf cart. Bring beer ( or your choice). Race, have fun, take the cart, ride around , lie about how much hp you got and how your opponent is cheating, drink beer. Sleep well. Repeat as necessary.

Jim Hanig 11-30-2016 01:29 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 521136)
Fatherly advice from someone with not enough sense to quit. Run your car, lots of little things you can do without major expense. Get a golf cart. Bring beer ( or your choice). Race, have fun, take the cart, ride around , lie about how much hp you got and how your opponent is cheating, drink beer. Sleep well. Repeat as necessary.
Truer words never spoken,

jmcarter 11-30-2016 01:29 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 521136)
Fatherly advice from someone with not enough sense to quit. Run your car, lots of little things you can do without major expense. Get a golf cart. Bring beer ( or your choice). Race, have fun, take the cart, ride around , lie about how much hp you got and how your opponent is cheating, drink beer. Sleep well. Repeat as necessary.
And a US Nationals Wally to cap it off, not a bad way to race (and nobody is ruling you out for a repeat performance).

HR9121 11-30-2016 08:05 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 521136)
Fatherly advice from someone with not enough sense to quit. Run your car, lots of little things you can do without major expense. Get a golf cart. Bring beer ( or your choice). Race, have fun, take the cart, ride around , lie about how much hp you got and how your opponent is cheating, drink beer. Sleep well. Repeat as necessary.
We're all glad you haven't come to your senses yet Mr Jeff! This also sounds like alot of people I know haha.

Freddie 12-01-2016 01:25 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Thank You everyone for the advice and all. The key to this build is and will remain to have fun.

I have been away from class racing for some time, can anyone tell me how class eliminations work now? What is with the Combo?

Darrel Goheen 12-01-2016 01:36 PM
Re: How far under index?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddie (Post 521215)
I have been away from class racing for some time, can anyone tell me how class eliminations work now? What is with the Combo?
When there isn't another car in your class you get put in with other cars that also don't have another car in their class. You are both dialed by your indexes. Whomever crosses finish line first wins (providing no red light).


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