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MW7670 03-01-2024 12:30 AM

Re: combo killers
 
Combo Killer!!! Kinda sucks I helped the combo from horsepower at the end of last year adjusting the overall average to have 1 guy say F it the past two weekends in qualifying with nothing on the line. Not a class trophy Not a heads up elimination round. First two races of the year and the guy just doesn’t give a F.
This combo has never been hit with horsepower and it would be nice if all of us could keep it that way! I personally made sure to run between.85-.65 last weekend in Arizona not for some knuckle head to go out and F it up. We all spend tons of money and work hard on our S**T most of us for many many years not for someone to give little or zero F’s.

Absolutely Ridiculous just my two sense!!!

Herbie Null 03-01-2024 08:22 AM

Re: combo killers
 
How can all these old carburetor combos' go this fast. Looks like the EFI cars need HP back, lol.

Jeff Dona SS3269 03-01-2024 09:03 AM

Re: combo killers
 
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Originally Posted by Herbie Null (Post 694376)
How can all these old carburetor combos' go this fast. Looks like the EFI cars need HP back, lol.

Pretty sure we have a soft index problem in stock and SS . To many rule changes with no index adjustments.

Paul Precht 03-01-2024 12:06 PM

Re: combo killers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Dona SS3269 (Post 694379)
Pretty sure we have a soft index problem in stock and SS . To many rule changes with no index adjustments.

It's too soft for some combos but not all. Too many rule changes that benefit some but not all.

Doug Hoven 03-01-2024 12:42 PM

Re: combo killers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Dona SS3269 (Post 694379)
Pretty sure we have a soft index problem in stock and SS . To many rule changes with no index adjustments.

Not really sure how many rule "changes" have occurred since the indexes were last adjusted, but I think the leniency and absence of tech has caused the "index problem." Namely the "stock" heads and intakes that are deemed legal today versus what was deemed legal 15-20 years ago.

James Perrone 03-01-2024 01:53 PM

Re: combo killers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven (Post 694384)
Not really sure how many rule "changes" have occurred since the indexes were last adjusted, but I think the leniency and absence of tech has caused the "index problem." Namely the "stock" heads and intakes that are deemed legal today versus what was deemed legal 15-20 years ago.

Young man that’s not it
Go to a reputable engine shop and get the best stuff
Hard work and $
American It’s your $ choose where and how to spend it
And you have a fast car.
Also crying about the problem ain’t solving it
What done is done so you gotta adjust to fix it or buy more lead
Sort of like comp 😂

MW7670 03-01-2024 02:31 PM

Re: combo killers
 
The original post was about 1 man destroying a combo for 25-75 other racers for No reasonable reason! The guy who started this post has every right to be upset. Let me go spend thousands of dollars this week to pick up a tenth and watch this guy go F it up over one weekend. Can’t fix S****d This post is Not about index’s not being adjusted , Not carbs vs efi, Not a combo that’s too soft etc etc. someone stated If I need to protect my combo then it needs horsepower. Thats completely untrue! more than 3/4 of the field is doing the same thing and has done it for years! Weight, Oil, bias ply tires, timing etc. to protect their own combo. The guy hasn’t even done it when it matters the most. A Heads Up late in a race for a trip to the final or a bye to the final etc. Not even a class final!! 🤦🏼*♂️

Jon Sarrett 03-01-2024 03:08 PM

Re: combo killers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MW7670 (Post 694391)
The original post was about 1 man destroying a combo for 25-75 other racers for No reasonable reason! The guy who started this post has every right to be upset. Let me go spend thousands of dollars this week to pick up a tenth and watch this guy go F it up over one weekend. Can’t fix S****d This post is Not about index’s not being adjusted , Not carbs vs efi, Not a combo that’s too soft etc etc. someone stated If I need to protect my combo then it needs horsepower. Thats completely untrue! more than 3/4 of the field is doing the same thing and has done it for years! Weight, Oil, bias ply tires, timing etc. to protect their own combo. The guy hasn’t even done it when it matters the most. A Heads Up late in a race for a trip to the final or a bye to the final etc. Not even a class final!! 🤦🏼*♂️

Back when I was building my Camaro, Warren whipped the 4th gen LT1 into 358 hp before I had my car ready for the track. Was I upset, yes! Did I come to a public forum and raise hell about it, no. That hit was wide spread and pretty much put the 93-98 LT1's on the back burner unless you can write some big checks! Some of you guys need to pull up your pants and tighten your belts! This is the sport we voluntarily chose to participate in. If you don't like it, go play croquet or shuffle board.

MR DERBY CITY 03-01-2024 03:13 PM

Re: combo killers
 
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Originally Posted by B Parker (Post 694169)
I have been good friends with him for a long time. I will talk to him at Gainsville, so he understands better about the AHFS. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank the Lord you talked to him Barry OR it could have gotten real UGLY !!!!!:):)

1320racer 03-01-2024 03:25 PM

Re: combo killers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett (Post 694396)
Some of you guys need to pull up your pants and tighten your belts! This is the sport we voluntarily chose to participate in. If you don't like it, go play croquet or shuffle board.

Well said and dead on with a zero.

If we decide to race stock, I promise I will kill the combo we run.:D


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