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JP1738 05-22-2024 08:49 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
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Originally Posted by monte385 (Post 697609)
Have you checked Summit?

They don't carry Rotella. All good though, I took an earlier suggestion and bought 10 gallons of straight 30wt at 17.50/gal from Walmart.

lorenr 05-22-2024 04:06 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
:cool:Why would you use Rotella In a gas engine? True, I've always used 5W-40 full synthetic in my diesels. Why..

By the way Wal Mart brand Super Tech 5W-30 has always equated to Mobil One, so I've used it. Never an issue.

Someone made a comment a week or so ago about a newer light weight oil that makes 3 horsepower on a 400 HP motor. What gives?

Barry Polley 05-23-2024 12:43 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Without knowing base and additive packages in these specialty oils especially after covid … I would be hesitant about adding anything.
I do not pretend to be a chemical engineer.

Mike Miljanovic 05-25-2024 06:09 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Hello; I heard that Shell has reduced or eliminated ZDDP from their formula (pressure from the EPA!) Rislone makes the best additive; contains both zinc & phosphorus. The STP additive is way too viscous & only contains zinc. We use synthetic oil in our stocker: 5w20 in spring/fall & 5w30 in the hot weather. (for what's it worth)

Alan Roehrich 05-26-2024 11:05 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Couple of things to note.


1. It's not at all a good idea to play chemical engineer with motor oil. As described by Lake Speed in the video, you could be literally mixing up something quite detrimental to your engine.


2. Be aware, diesel oils are for engines that do not normally even run at the RPM your gasoline race engine runs at to break in the camshaft if it has flat tappets. As such, the diesel oil will foam and aerate.Even just as you break in your camshaft. Air is not a good lubricant for an engine, especially not a race engine.



3. There are good oils designed specifically to break in your engine, including your flat tappet camshaft.It pays to use them. Brad Penn makes a good one. Among others.





Take from that what you will. Free advice might be worth what you paid for it. Or it might be priceless. Y'all think about it.

RKelliher 05-26-2024 02:47 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
I agree with allen on this . Rotella has zinc in but also has detergent witch you don't want in a race engine. Why would spend 10's of thousand of dollar to build a race to then cheapin out with none racing oil and cheap filters. Race oil and good filter are a lot cheaper than a engine...My thoughts

1347 05-27-2024 10:19 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RKelliher (Post 697762)
I agree with allen on this . Rotella has zinc in but also has detergent witch you don't want in a race engine. Why would spend 10's of thousand of dollar to build a race to then cheapin out with none racing oil and cheap filters. Race oil and good filter are a lot cheaper than a engine...My thoughts

I am not sure where you got that detergents arent for race oil, but when I talked to Gibbs(driven) about using their BR30 in a race engine all the time, they recommended I don't because the break in oil has no detergent but their race oils do. That's why you get the separation in the K&P oil filter with BR30. I trust what they say

RKelliher 05-27-2024 12:02 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
I don't know who you talked to at Driven, but their break in oil does have detergent in it. But this thread is about using diesel oil in race engine. Diesel oil has a high amount of detergent in it. Not got for race gas engines to have high detergent. will cause zinc film to be removed from engine parts. SAE did a technical paper series 2007-01-3999 that states this problem. So use what ever you want.

jcw31 05-27-2024 06:40 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
I have friends who race mini sprinters with 600 cc motorcycle engines , buzz then 12000 rpm every lap their engine builders recommend rotella 15w40 .
Just sayin.

RKelliher 05-27-2024 08:13 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
You're comparing motorcycle engines with 4 stroke racing engines?


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