Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Two words brian - (well not really words)

PSHHHT PSSHHHT !!!! :D

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

B.J. thanks for the input for sure cam will not be .900 i believe .800ish as far as gear its a 4.10 16x33 tire and convertor i bought one from wayne he had in his car only like 6 passes on it so i will see if that works ..........as far as flow yeah he showed me what mine flowed and he had 360 numbers they were so close it was crazy....

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

yeah I think Darts flow numbers are taken at .800

Just watching the rerun of the PINKS episode that pitted Sal Passarelli against Kenny Testa. A couple top dragster drivers involved in that one on the Mustang team. Makes me want to go racing.

B.J. Masiello

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

yeah the bug is in the air .....yeah he only went to .900 to see if it kept increasing and it did the flow did not drop off ....so hopefully they will work until i can afford to but the real pretty heads alot of you guys use...unless someone has a spare set i can borrow ...lol....

mike what the hell is PSHHHT PSSHHHT !!!! is that a whisper?....lmao

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

It's the nitrous you are purging - LOL :rolleyes:

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Frank,
If your wife drove my car it would run 7.30s easily.

Brian,
No body else hit Mega Millions either, it's now 120 million, If you still have the$.0435 cents I will loan you the rest.

Anonymous Lebanon Valley Decision Maker Guy,
That was a legitimate question on the firesuit, I Can justify the NOS expense but not the $1,200 to 1,500 dollars for another new firesuit, just to use a second or two of spray.

Mike,
I was not kidding about saturday parking in the lot near the dirt track. Historically very few regular racers leave their stuff in the area closest to the tower. With a little pre-planning they could save that area on T/D weekends. I don't think everyone would fit but it would be a nice gesture. I would ask but I heard the "Wanted Dead or Alive, Preferably Dead" has been rehung with a new "dartboard feature"in the tower.

Old Digger,
On these T/D weekends maybe they could have a tollbooth race. Two racers with an axe to grind
each pay $50 to the starter . Non qualifiers and early losers can race. Win light gets the cash. We could name it after Wayne since he lost the title rights to the series.

Scott,
Cam and flow specs are cool, but we need pictures.

Wayne,
Since your still in charge of the weather, Quit hogging up all the sunshine and send some north.
It snowed all day yesterday.

Bill

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Sorry Bill I have already got dibs on Laura driving my car - sad thing is even with her I am still over 2,000 lbs. :mad::mad::mad::mad:


I would be fine anywhere we parked - it would be nice if we all were in the same area though.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

well now its quite in here

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

I think everybody is busying on their cars. I am actually waiting on parts at this point. Ordered my Nitrous stuff today. Hopefully will be picking my wing up from Dan Page next week. Engine block is at the machine shop getting honed. Nothing to do now and a whole lot to in a week or so.

Heading up to MA to work on a buddies door car tomorrow and Sunday. I have been mounting a fiberglass nose and building a radiator mount for him. Along with some other fab work. Its not a dragster but hey at least its a race car. Figured I better get it finished before my parts come in.

B.J. Masiello

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

wow b.j. you are a pretty nice guy helping out a door car .(p.s. we have one here in the family dont tellanyone)...i wasnt so sure after you didnt let me win that final ....or even have the lane i wanted ...lol...sure sounds like your gonna be busy i will be also as soon as the motor is done did you have to do anything different to run the nitrous engine wise?. mike dont get excited this is just in case i hit the lotto and can afford nitrous. lmao

old digger glad to see you took your meds and calmed down some...lol

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Hey sorry about the final thing. It was even worse having to race Wayne in the first round. Here he put the whole weekend together and we have to race first round. In fact in three rounds I had to race against two hoffman cars. If it makes you feel any better after I stopped my car and shut it off. she brought my time slip over and yelled at me for beating you. with eight races this year Im sure you will get to return the favor at some point.

As to the engine I am ordering rings through Reher Morrison that are design for nitrous I believe they arefered to as "hellfire rings" I know you are not supposed to use a moly ring with nitrous. My pistons were originally design to work with nitrous so they have enought thickness. I do have pretty good rotating assembly parts such as manley rods and a Callies crank. I am also putting new lifters in it but thats just for insurance. I have 150 runs on the old ones and Im not taking any chances. Other than changing plugs and pulling timing that is about it. If any one wants to chime in and tell me Im making any catosrophic mistakes please feel free to chime in. I am not planning on going crazy either I am thinking 2-3 hundred shot. If that works maybe Ill push it a little for Epping national but I want it to live at least untill then. My converter is a little too tight anyway on motor so I am hoping it will really lilke the nitrous. Its gone 7.13 and 188 on motor so Im hoping 6.8 and 195 shouldn't be out of reach on spray or at least 6 something at 190something

I say put a bottle on your car and join the fun. As Wayne once pointed out to me people put 150 shot on a street car. on a 900 horse race engine its nothing.

B.J. Masiello

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

one of my concerns is y main caps they are cast as they came when the engine was new from shafiroff ..and changing them is expensive almost cheaper to buy a dart block....everything alse is good i have a lunati pro mod crank je pistons and eagle rods L 19 rod bolts .......havent bought rings yet

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

The rings to buy are Akerly and Childs - Get a tool steel top ring with the hellfire backcut second ring !!!
Hellfires are ok but not the best stuff anymore.
The cast caps are fine - unless you are going to be spraying the balls out of it dont worry about it. **** years ago I ran a 2 bolt block and sprayed it - nothing ever happened. The eagle rods are OK - as long as you didnt say eagle crank !!! LOL I caught a lifter at the end of the year at the LV race - nothing really happened though. But I ordered another set of red zones (they are rebuildable) and they will get changed mid year - every year for preventative maint. Thankfully it happened in the burnout and not the run -

BJ you put a 300 shot in that thing you are going to fly - no problem making epping. You go 7.20 on motor correct?? You put a 28-32 in it you are easily going 6.80's.

The rumor now is you HAVE TO SPRAY it for the series - LOL. Should be interesting to see frank spray it as well -

IS IT APRIL YET !!!!????

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

If they let me put a bottle on it, it'll be there.

Brian,
You'll have NO problem putting 150 - 200 shot on your car.
Think of it his way; race at Denver, then race at Gainesville. Do the math on how much you pick up and then calculate the extra HP Gainesville makes.
I'm positive none of the guys that race Denver then Gainesville do anything different to their engines because of the added HP.
Don't get me wrong if something weird happens (timing issue, fuel solenoid stuck, etc) you can have issues BUT don't be affraid of a small shot with what you have for parts in it.
As was said, look at how many STOCK engines run spray, and we have race motors (with better parts supposedly :-) .
You never know, your combo might LOVE it.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Brian,
We didn't win again, but no one else did either. 145 million, do you still have the .04 cents??

I don't know if they are the same, but the main caps off the engine that blew up on its maiden voyage last year may be available. The block was a GM gen 6 and they were forged.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

i got 18 dollars now bill i won the second practice tree race last night billy jr one the big dollar one ......lol...

my block is a tall deck mark v gm block not sure if they are the same if so that is sweet .....

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

hey bill i hope that pro stock motor fits between your frame rails......i would only hook up 6 plug wires so you can get traction .....

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Brian,
I would have preferred that stayed between us, I would have been fun to catch some bigmouth yapping and whack em heads up with no bottle.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

oops sorry bill i only thought you did it so you dont have to buy the -15 firesuit, i retract my last post....

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

great another non driving nit wit in a 200 mile an hour car

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Great,
Another Pencil-neck Geek hiding behind a keyboard. Digger you are welcome to come out and straighten me out anytime you want. Either On the track or the old school way is fine with me. I am assuming we have met, you could have the courtesy to use your real name.

Bill Krug

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

I think Krug is sexy when he's mad....call me crazy!

On a serious note, it looks like Wayne (with help from Scott Hall) has put together a pretty nice series at the Valley. I hope it receives support from the racers because it takes lots of work to put something like this together.

Maggiulli Jr.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Johnny,
You are crazy, I am sexy 24-7-365 happy or mad. Long time no hear, how is married life ? Are you racing this year ?

Bill

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Now Billy,
Don't get ahead of your self. What kind of satisfaction are you going to get out of beating up some Bald headed, NO tooth, Denture Cream slobbering, Geritol drinkin, Depends wearing, half blind old guy. His best package could be calculated with a sun dial and that's because his finger slipped off the button when he went to fart and instead crapped himself and thought the warmth he was feeling was the amber light on.

Just drag race him, dial a couple hun quicker and take him across by 4 thou.
Be gentle with him, he's going to need to save up his social security checks for a couple years to come play.
After all, he's got himself a $75.00 race car there.

I can see it now, Billy will steal this guys cane and win be default. Billy will be at the starting line and we'll be hearing in the LVD pit area "Help, I've fallin and I can't get up".
Although we may need to look out, he may be sponsored by "The Scooter Store".

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Johnny,
Try to stop by for one of these races. It looks to be a pretty nice deal.

I second the hard work on putting this together.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Yes lets not forget all the hard work that goes into this .......also thanks to the staff at lebanon valley for the prep work we got last year to pull it off lets hope we can lure tristan to show up and do the prep this year for theese shows he will not be back full time im told

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

I heard a rumor that he wants to race a motorcyle. Don't know if its true or not. From a racer's perspective he is the hardest working employee that LVD has had in a long time. He specifically went out of his way to give us a good track that weekend in October. It will be a real loss to see him leave.

Maybe if you guys hit the big jackpot you can throw a little into gving him a really BIG BONUS for the top dragster days to come and do the track prep. That is if you have some left over after you buy your 800 inch nitrous motor.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

well i can say tristan is a huge loss for the valley and yes he bought a dragbike so he will be there im told there are others that know how to groom that track (glenn growe john crosby, ) former employees glenn works on john finkes tad and john works for nhra safety safari but i am sure if asked and payed of course ...they would spend the time needed to show a knowlegable person to groom the track ....... i on the other hand just came from the engine builders and unforunatly not good news again which means more $$$$$$$ and the money tree is dry so unless i sell the harley or my truck soon i will be spectating for a bit ....so if anyone needs a one owner 05 softail custom paint etc or a 1995 tahoe cheap let me know

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Frank,
Trash talking can be fun, and the idea is tempting but I am not going to slap around a crippled old man and take his cane. How do know its a little old man? Do you have a suspect in mind?

Maggs
Where did you go? Are you in the doghouse for talking about racing again?

Brian,
No good on Mega Millions again. I would loan you the black car but it is only certified to 7.50.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Digger,
Cat got your tongue?

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Hey guys I am new to drag racing however i have raced for 26 years. If a guy sets a E.T. limit on a class either make your car run that fast or just run in an other class. I can see why an advanced E.T. class car should be in its own class due to safety reasons , class rules , and those guys spent big money to go that fast. If you have a car that will run 7.70's it is not a great feat to spray it and have it go 7.49 anyway. don't be scared of nitrous just learn how to use it .( it's not that difficult) I have run cars with 2 500 h.p. systems on it and made it live. don't get me wrong we blew up alot of parts learning, however you don't have to go that extreme. Thats all I have for now. Best of luck to all this season and be safe.
P.S. support Wayne's race don't slam it. It wil only grow with support.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

hey fury what have you raced before ? and do you know what your talking about ? if this is a NHRA sanctioned track it should use there rules!!!! if not dont try and call it a Top Dragster series call it a 7.49 and quicker series. or a quick 16 and feel free to spray the crap out of your cars run them heads up then you will see who has the most money ,thats my impression of what your trying to do here not grow the sport or class like another track has done

Old

p.s no krug cat hasnt got my tongue i am ready to race my 7.60 dragster

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Everyone has there opinion as to how things should run. Unfortunatly it is impossible to make everyone happy when planning a series or for that matter doing anything.

The bottom line is that the desision on the dial in matter has been made. Not by Wayne or Scott but by Lebanon Valley. They are the ones hosting so we need to play by there rules. Scott has made it very clear that the lines of communication are being kept open on other matters. He has been nice enough to offer a phone number that you can call. If you dont post with a real name or call in person how do you expect anyone to contact you are take your opinions into consideration.

You say tha this series is a constest to see who has the most money. I have to ask have you met either Wayne or Scott? I dont think racing is about money for either of them. They are just committed to the sport and to the class of Top Dragster racing. Neither of them are getting anything out of this other than a series to race in just like the rest of us. If you have been racing as long as you say you should know that going fast is about a lot more than just money.

When you referred to the "other track" I would assume that you are referring to Epping. in not such a subtle way. Not that you have a reason to be subtle. They worked hard and put together a very successful series of races last year. They are making it even better this year. They are great people and great racers and Wayne has made it clear that this series was scheduled in a way to let racers who choose to be able to run both. I ran all of there races last year and had a blast doing it. I intend to run as many Epping races as my budget will allow this year also. That being said, they also had people early on last year who didn't agree with all of the rules. If you read the rules carefully they do not follow IHRA top dragster rules to the lettter either. The rules are set to best fit what works for that particular series. Every track has the right to do things in there own way. As long as this is made clear to the racers in writing what the rules are. We as the racers have the choice to participate by the rules or not participate.

Best of luck with your combination. Hope you choose to participate

We are lucky enough to live in an area with two great top dragster series!!!

CAN'T WAIT UNTILL MAY!!!!

B.J. Masiello

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Wow B.J. you must feel better cuz i do after hearing you .....lol....you are correct you will never please everyone ...that is why awhile back i said a meeting with all interested and track personel involved would work great ! that way there is no hidden names and if you have something to say go for it and take a vote and make a final decision so everyone can be a part of it ...lord knows wayne and scott have done a ton by them selves ! .....my feeling is if my car is fast enough i look forward to racing the series and hopefully some at ned if not just call me a bracket racer i just want it to stay together ! if anyone knows the kinda season i had last year with my two cars then you can understand i dont want breakage...lol....

if not for some super nice friends and fellow racers i wouldve been a spectator last year

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Hey Brian

Are there any parts specifically that you are looking for. I will keep my eyes open for deals around.

Actually saying "I cant wait untill May" might not be such a good idea

I am going to be cutting it close to make the first weekend also. As of right now I am planning on having the car done. It did occur to me this weekend though how much I have left to do, How many parts I still need and how little time is left to do it. I would like to be done a few weeks ahead so I can test with the nitrous. As of right now I am planning on being there with bells on.

Which leads me to a nitrous question for the nitrous people on here. If I do not dyno about how many passes should I make to ensure the rings are seated before turning the bottle on. I am assuming its not a good idea to go out there with a fresh set of rings and start spraying.

If something drastic does change either way I will be at the track that weekend to lend my support and any help I can to make the first weekend run smooth.

B.J. Masiello

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

B J stay off the computer and shovel the driveway.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

yes BJ go shovel the snow.....lol.....hmmm what do i need valve springs and retainers my 1.55 springs are good but i need the 1.64 springs and retainers for the bigger cam what else rods 6.800 long
not sure what we are doing for a cam yet ?
box oil pan mark v block
oil pump
boatload of cash ....lol
if you need any help let me know i cant doo much til my motor is done...

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Yeah BJ.
And when your done come and do mine.

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

But not at a Lebanon Valley Top Dragster Race !!

Re: Top Draster wheelbase
 

Driveway was shoveled early this morning. I guess snow days are a perk to being a teacher.

Frank, I think I need to make a sign "Will work for Gas, Nitrous or Beer" Or, any combination of the above mentioned


Brian I will keep my eyes open and ask around

B.J. Masiello