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JRyan 08-20-2017 11:34 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
Dwight,

I see, and in this case it works out the same. In actuality, NHRA would multiply the 11.85 Index times a factor of 1.0517. It's an inverse relationship, but due to the number of decimal points the math is carried to, there can be a difference of a hundredth in the factors.

Jerry

HP HUNTER 12-08-2017 08:03 PM

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After racing the Buick, the first time in competition I noticed the car would lose oil pressure during hard braking in the lights, so I had my fabricator modify the factory oil pan for more capacity and better oil control, although its not finished yet here are some preliminary pictures.

David Lee 12-08-2017 09:15 PM

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i was not aware we could modify the oil pans that much

HP HUNTER 12-08-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 551366)
i was not aware we could modify the oil pans that much

Mines mild from what I've seen. But, when 4 different people tell you its not legal its time to go back to the drawing board.

MR DERBY CITY 12-08-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David Lee (Post 551366)
i was not aware we could modify the oil pans that much

You can't .....these pics only belong on a thread dated April 1st....

David Lee 12-09-2017 01:34 AM

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thanks

Glenn Briglio 12-09-2017 08:09 AM

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Superstock oil pan?

James Perrone 12-09-2017 10:36 AM

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Paint it black. Lol

Shadylane 12-09-2017 04:43 PM

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MR DERBY CITY 12-09-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadylane (Post 551411)
Is that the date when the new rule comes out stating that we can run any oil pan or dry sump in stock... In the name of safety of course!

Yes, you are correct. I believe the info came from Fred Rector.....

Shadylane 12-09-2017 08:49 PM

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MR DERBY CITY 12-10-2017 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadylane (Post 551426)
I wouldn't trust what Fast Freddie says, he gets most of his information from either Don Kennedy or Bobby D. :D

I hear ya Mr. Shady. Riding SHOTGUN in a race car on an old country road is a little far fetched for me too......This thread has been officially hijacked.....

SSGN 01-13-2018 10:08 AM

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Mark
I see your running a HEI and no spark box, and I don't see a pcv?? Have you tried other set ups?? Just curious because on my street cars both showed HP on the dyno.

HP HUNTER 01-14-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 553650)
Mark
I see your running a HEI and no spark box, and I don't see a pcv?? Have you tried other set ups?? Just curious because on my street cars both showed HP on the dyno.

I ran the HEI because I had not had a chance to rewire the car yet, and the fuel system seemed more important to me with the time I had to work with. Same with the testing, time was limited. What exactly did you see with the PCV valve, if you don't mind. Trying to get everything legal for this season. My oil pressure drop situation in the lights kept me from working on the metric trans along with a gear change. I've never even tuned on the car at the track or tried my other carbs. I will say this, the 1 time I've raced the car it put me in the winners circle!

SSGN 01-14-2018 04:24 PM

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We tried a few things with the PCV, one was as stock with it in a breather and the other side vented. We vented the passenger side. We also tried 2 pcv and no vent, showed HP on the dyno but no et difference. The pcv in the end of the breather that you have worked the best as the breather acted like an oil separator. This is how I set up my street cars also.

HP HUNTER 10-09-2019 07:57 PM

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After finishing the year with a best of 1.01 under the F/SA index losing some MPH since the engine was first built, I suspect the short block of being tired I plan to build a new short block and change the trans this winter. Of course I will post pictures as I go, followed with a dyno test with data, followed with a track test. I need to make a decision on the bore size and piston to wall clearance, I think I've got a handle on the bearing clearance from my previous testing. I will be nitrating the crank this time as well.

Dan Fahey 10-09-2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by HP HUNTER (Post 599486)
After finishing the year with a best of 1.01 under the F/SA index losing some MPH since the engine was first built, I suspect the short block of being tired I plan to build a new short block and change the trans this winter. Of course I will post pictures as I go, followed with a dyno test with data, followed with a track test. I need to make a decision on the bore size and piston to wall clearance, I think I've got a handle on the bearing clearance from my previous testing. I will be nitrating the crank this time as well.

What does that do to the crank?
D

HP HUNTER 10-09-2019 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 599490)
What does that do to the crank?
D

Surface hardens the crank.

Mark Yacavone 10-09-2019 11:52 PM

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Still a good deal for the short block. The pistons cost more than that.

Dave Noll 10-11-2019 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HP HUNTER (Post 599486)
I will be nitrating the crank this time as well.

Who does that ?

HP HUNTER 10-12-2019 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 599588)
Who does that ?

Theres a operation in Phoenix, but I would use Winberg in Denver just because I live close.


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