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I totally agree with you he may not be liked in the camping community (I don’t think he’s spent a night in an RV in his life lol), but like Lew said above maybe it’s time to branch out and look at some non traditional sponsors. In this pandemic time, dollars are hard to come by. NHRA needs a title sponsor to survive, a sponsor that believes in what the foundation of drag racing is .

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Pretty much every major corporation has at least some participation in politics. The list of companies that have donated to BLM is huge. You can't boycott them all!

The bottom line is that we NEED the NHRA to have sponsorship. I hear all of the talk about forming new organizations, but I don't see discussion about how the insurance, safety crew, tech crew, track crew, administrative team, etc. will be financed.........

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Yes pretty much every major corporation has some participation in politics, and have been since the government decided to treat corporations like people and Citizen's United opened the flood gates to "dark money" contributions to Super PAC's! No "getting the toothpaste back in the tube" now!

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Baloney! WE need the NHRA Sportsman Series to have sponsorship and Lucas Oil is doing a fine job of that.
How much Coca Cola money have YOU seen? That's all for the pros and campers world will be too.
Go talk to a track owner/manager and find out who's paying the bills for Divisional Events. It's not NHRA, they're just taking their cut.

And OBTW, I accidentally "liked" your post. Kenny, we need an un-like button!

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Billy,

You are missing my point. The NHRA needs the Sportsman classes. That is obvious. I really don't feel that the Sportsman series is worth much without National Events. The two are somewhat co-dependent. The NHRA organization provides a lot of stuff that gets overlooked in these conversations. I was just pointing a few out.

I'm going to go ahead and "like" your post. Even though I don't mean it I figure it will cancel yours out!

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Aren't we talking NATIONAL EVENT sponsorships here? Nobody's been talking about the Sportsman Series, or why it would matter WHO supplies the money to run the National Events, have they? Other than the extremely unlikely possibility that if no sponsor can be found there may not BE any National Events, the Sportsman Series AT THE DIVISIONAL level shouldn't be affected, or am I missing something?

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Winston and Camel were non automotive sponsors.


William Sands

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It does matter what happens with the overall title sponsor. If NHRA goes bankrupt, do you really think Lucas Oil wants to be associated with them? Yeah, not much of the money from Coke trickles down to the sportsman but if the upper echelon fails, so does the whole company! NHRA failing does none of us any good.

I could care less of what Camping World's owners has to say about politics. If we boycotted every company because of their political contributions or affiliations, we would not have much to eat, drink or drive! As long as he is throwing his $'s toward NHRA and keeping it afloat, then we have additional places to race.

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Why is it that when Tom Compton tried to "sell off" the pro series of the NHRA most of the NHRA Sportsman people (including Tech people) I spoke to thought it was a good thing and now the Sportsmen can't wipe their own butts without the pros? We are the only part of the organization that can even remotely come close to supporting ourselves.

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You guys are hilarious, Camping World has gone on record stating they do not need or want TRUMP supporters as customers...did you happen to see how many TRUMP decals were on the race cars at INDY ?,,,,,,Over 15,000 members on this forum and how many are dems ?....my guess is less than 1%.....

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So if he becomes Title Sponsor what are all you (99%) going to do?


Stan

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Take his money! as long as he doesn't make us race electric cars

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Just remember Marcus Lemonis loves the Lime Light and loves to Tweet?

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Lemonis also has a tv show called The Profit where he takes struggling businesses and reorganizes them and turns them back profitable again. Maybe he could trim some fat at NHRA......
MJ just to be clear you might want to go back and read the fact check about what he said, it was taken out of context like so many other things these days.

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Is he the same guy that wouldn’t take down his flag when the community said it was too large and violated zoning restrictions ?

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No one is happier about this than Ron Capp's Wallys.
They dont gave have to drink that meller yeller anymore...
Rock me!

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I can only remember someone with to high a flag pole without a permit or variance.



Stan

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lol. Better watch it. They were testing that out at Indy. :rolleyes:


Stan

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All that'll tell you before you walk in their store, is everything on the shelf is made in china.

There's plenty of globalists on the right, all of them as far as I can tell. They've all lined their pockets green offshoring the US economy. They'll throw Trump under the bus at the first opportunity it is expedient to lining their pockets more green.

I agree with the premise of your point but the details can't be ignored.

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What changes you think camping world could possibly bring to NHRA ?

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Let's keep politics out of this and stay on topic.
NHRA needs a major player in order to keep going unless they completely restructure.
If NHRA goes down it will have a major impact on the sport we all love.

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Drastic changes are needed at NHRA, and it's often difficult for organizations to make drastic changes. I was at General Motors when they were sliding downhill in the early 2000's. Everyone at the working level knew drastic changes were needed, but the top level didn't want to admit failure. They just wanted to ride along collecting their salaries. It's hard to say "I'm not up to this, you should get rid of me." To start with, NHRA needs to move to the center of the country where the cost of operation is far less. IRP might be a good spot for a National Office. And at the same time they could jettison all of the dead weight hanging around Glendora. Indy is loaded with motorsports management talent.

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The only real mistake NHRA made was entertaining the idea their show was the reason for dwindling attendances at National events, by making the Pro Stock guys remove the hood scoops.

The show was never the problem, the problem was a dwindling middle class. The middle class makes up the majority of a thriving National drag racing organization. There's plenty of third world countries with no professional drag racing as testament, made up of rich and poor populaces.

Debt slaves working two part time minimum wage jobs ringing up chinese garbage, to pay for obama care, aren't gonna have the discretionary money in their pockets for local drag racing, much less making the National event in their state, as a spectator.

That's what happened to NHRA, the show has always been good. It's how the manufacturing midway became unprofitable for vendors. It's why local drag racing has been downsized, with much fewer races.

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There is quite a bit of truth in your statements Mike!

LVMS has sliced their local programs to pieces.
It used to be one of the most active sportsman track
in our part of the country.

If next year shapes up the same for us in business and
racing opportunities........It will be our last year racing.

We are working twice as hard in our business for 1/2 the money!

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Another 2 things I think kills motorsports more than anything are the costs & youth. I grew up in the late 80's and early 90's. My HS was filled with old 60's-early 70's cars. Most males had really cool cars. Late 90's price started getting stupid again and these turned into collectors cars, even a 71 Malibu that's in good condition is out of reach for kids now. Youth couldn't afford no more so interests went else where. I finished my must in 2004 and spent every dime I had. 3 yrs later had kids so I haven't spent a dime since. Prices have almost doubled since.
NHRA's worst mistake has always been to rely on the Sportsman racers & ticket sales. They ignored how youth was no longer paying attention like 30 yrs ago. Instead of doing anything proactive to adjust the ways of the future, they just kept sticking it to the racers thinking you would always be there since they are the great NHRA. The prices just to go to a National event is stupid. I like most on here have no Pro interest. I can go to a 3 day Div race for the price of a 1 day pass at a National.
NHRA only pays attention to what lines there pockets with no look ahead to what their supporters go thru supporting them.

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All entertainment venues are in dire straights during this pandemic. Movie theaters, concerts, NFL. NBA, NCAA, NASCAR, NHRA have few paying customers. Amusement parks in the US have lost over $118,000,000 in revenue and layed off over 125,000 employees. (Majority Coke outlets)
I have a feeling when the NHRA/Coke lawsuit hits the California court system, with a $5 million deal, the courts will tell them to settle themselves. Who could have possibly predicted a pandemic? BTW, Disneyland is $196 per person, when open. So, family of 4 plus snacks is around $1,000 per day. Think I'll go to the beach.

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Bob, I don't think NHRA missed the youth crowd, as they weren't going to be interested anyway. Look at the import drag racing scene, not very healthy. I've got two grandkids in their 20's that don't have their drivers licenses and don't want one. The youth of today have more important things to do like posting selfies and making goofy videos for YouTube or TiKTok.

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The “Youth of Today” might not be interested in NHRA class racing. Possibly due to cost/ travel/ rule restrictions, but at my local track on any given night the lanes have a great showing of young drivers.

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Agreed, same with some of my local tracks but most are with their street cars and I just don't see the progression that used to happen to race cars.

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We are running the NMCA Finals at Indy this weekend. There are lots of younger people here racing. The same can be said for the NMRA races and the Holley LS Fest. Our local track has a good amount of younger participants too.

The "In Thing" is power adders. Turbos and superchargers rule these days. Most people that I talk to can't see spending the money to run what we run when they can go much faster for less.

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Pro stock. Racer Bo Bunter is racing super gas At St. Louis
I guess he isn’t wasting Time with pro stock.
He can make more $$ is super gas than pro stock Gainesville

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I see his name as qualified at Gainsville

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Pro Stock (like the other Pro fields) only gets two qualifying runs on Saturday which freed him up to run the Thursday & Friday divisional at St Louis. He loves to race and who can blame him.

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Are there any projections on how or when NHRA will have a new plan for the future ???