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Carguy49 11-23-2016 12:47 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
the poll - yes.

Mickey Whaley 11-23-2016 12:58 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carguy49 (Post 520566)
the poll - yes.

So how will this reflect the other divisions ? without taking their own vote?

HandOverFist 11-23-2016 02:06 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Thanks for explaining Peter. That is exactly the way I thought it worked and see no down side to it. Unfortunately many stories get embellished as time goes on confusing the true intent.

FireSale 11-23-2016 02:46 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Peter: Thank you. When I get my car converted, I'm in.

Would the RTs on the scoreboard read
LEFT -0.002 WINNER
RIGHT -0.018

Micky: James is seeking opinions of D6 drivers affected by this. James and Jim Storms run the Stock/SuperStock Combo series out here.

Lenny5160 11-23-2016 02:58 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 520578)
Peter: Thank you. When I get my car converted, I'm in.

Would the RTs on the scoreboard read
LEFT -0.002 WINNER
RIGHT -0.018

Micky: James is seeking opinions of D6 drivers affected by this. James and Jim Storms run the Stock/SuperStock Combo series out here.

Why would there be RTs on the scoreboard in an elimination round?

Greg Marshall 11-23-2016 03:14 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
For Tru-Start

since the car that breaks out the most loses,a similar rule should apply on the starting line .

Mark Yacavone 11-23-2016 03:20 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 520562)
In a heads up race, the worst red light is also the first & losing, right? Same as a handicap pairing now. Am I missing something?

Yes, I believe so, Ed
In eliminations , when a heads up run occurs, the computer sees a different segment (for lack of the proper term) of the program.. Index, instead of dial-ins, no breakout in effect. I assume when in that mode, it won't see T-S at all.
However, in the case of different class, same exact dial in.... Let's say 1st car leaves early with a -.002, and then the 2nd car leaves 2 tenths later, obviously green, the 1st car's red light won't come on until the second car leaves the beam.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Peter.

Really ,this is all you need to know:

The Worst Red Light Loses... Period.

FireSale 11-23-2016 03:20 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 520579)
Why would there be RTs on the scoreboard in an elimination round?

If TruStart determines a winner, it should show on the scoreboard and how. We have very good anouncers but some of them speak gibberish.

I ran bracket at the tracks that James and Jim run the Combo. I always saw my dial change to my RT on green (or red). I think it flips back to my dial after that, but I'm generally busy with stuff at the time. CJ in the rearview and such...

I don't want to get off topic, but one of the things about modern drag racing that confuses new people is a lack of winner info from the scoreboard. On a breakout it gives dials and ET, but not the math that determines how the second car to the line won. If it flashed 10.30 / 10.28 / -0.02 all the info would be up for the fans. Might help with announcer code "Stevens dead on 9 ! Johnson breaks out by a thou !"

Scuse me. I'm a data junky.

Peter Biondo 11-23-2016 03:29 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Dale-

The scoreboards will function exactly as they do now. The only difference is with TruSTART the appropriate win-light wouldn't be on until both drivers leave the starting line.

The way it is without TruSTART (currently), the race is automatically (instantly) over when the slower car leaves with a foul start. With TruSTART, the timing system waits for the faster car to leave the starting line, and at that point it determines the winner and turns on the appropriate win-light in a red light (or double redlight) situation.

Hope this helps.

FireSale 11-23-2016 03:44 PM

Re: Tru start poll Division 6
 
Double red heads up
right -0.010 W
left -0.012 L

Double red handicap (current)
right leaves first -0.010 L
left leaves second -0.012 W

Double red handicap (TruStart)
right leaves first -0.010 W
left leaves second -0.012 L

Handicap becomes as fair as heads up.


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