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ALMACK 12-07-2016 08:44 AM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 521668)
It would have been so easy to add the above statement to the rule change!
As written, it creates all kinds of conclusions and assumptions by engine builders and racers


I agree with the above. ^^

If that was NHRA's intent then the revision should have come out and stated that hyd. flat tappet lifters can be replaced with solids.

Rick Schilling 12-07-2016 09:34 AM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
I know this should be obvious, but if your combination already uses hydraulic roller lifters you can convert to solid rollers now?

Billy Nees 12-07-2016 09:57 AM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Schilling (Post 521733)
I know this should be obvious, but if your combination already uses hydraulic roller lifters you can convert to solid rollers now?

It seems to me that going from a heavy hydraulic roller to a (fairly) light race-type solid roller should do wonders for the RPM potential of a bunch of modern Stockers!

Greg Reimer 7376 12-07-2016 11:57 AM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
Seems to me that after a lot of good intelligent questions have surfaced and been discussed, a rule clarification will probably be forthcoming. Yes, Billy, the solid roller lifter comment is a real good probability that RPM's might possibly be affected for good. I know that a mechanical lifter camshaft has clearance ramps included on each end of the lobe configuration to allow for lash, and that the overall lift also compensates for valve train lash. If you tried a set of mechanical lifters on your existent hydraulic cam, what would you use for lash on an initial effort before replacing the cam?We're talking going to a test and tune,not some kind of national event.

Dan Fahey 12-07-2016 11:57 AM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
Holy Super Stock Batman !!!

Stockers with SOLIDS !:eek:

D

ALMACK 12-07-2016 12:00 PM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 521757)
Holy Super Stock Batman !!!

Stockers with SOLIDS !:eek:

D


One step closer to SS for sure Dan ;)

Bob Don 12-07-2016 12:34 PM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
A cottage industry of high tech, high dollar stocker hydraulic lifters is made obsolete overnight by the stroke of a pen...

Bill Diehl 12-07-2016 01:08 PM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
If they are going to clarify the rules...what about the diameter?:eek:

jimi 12-07-2016 02:16 PM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376 (Post 521756)
Seems to me that after a lot of good intelligent questions have surfaced and been discussed, a rule clarification will probably be forthcoming. Yes, Billy, the solid roller lifter comment is a real good probability that RPM's might possibly be affected for good. I know that a mechanical lifter camshaft has clearance ramps included on each end of the lobe configuration to allow for lash, and that the overall lift also compensates for valve train lash. If you tried a set of mechanical lifters on your existent hydraulic cam, what would you use for lash on an initial effort before replacing the cam?We're talking going to a test and tune,not some kind of national event.

been using solid lifters on hydraulic cam grinds for years in street cars adjust the lash at.006".

Greg Reimer 7376 12-07-2016 07:26 PM

Re: Lifter rule in Stock
 
I assume that would have to be at or near operating temperature. Also, how much would you gain over these "Limited Travel" lifters?


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