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pfordamx 05-05-2019 11:05 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
unless its changed this year due to some factoring the 1970 360 4bl is a really good Super stock combination currently with only a 260hp rating i know a couple of people who are building this combo.

Mark Yacavone 05-05-2019 11:39 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by typhoon (Post 587884)
Thanks again . Not giving up on AMC but I'm going to enter into bracket racing to start. found an S10 cheap only needs motor. I have an AMC at home but cannot be used for stock racing,it'll just be a cruiser. I have found a 74 hornet wagon 232 6cyl. The way I read the chart, rating factor is 19.33 T/SA ?? 14.40 et. i would have to get around 200HP to achieve this . I think could be done. but you need to make car run up 1 second under index to be competitive ? the car can easily become a 304 or 360 as well. so I guess i have to move to another section for bracket advice.
thanks again Gentlemen
I did read a good quote " Enjoy the ride there is no return ticket" George Carlin.
Pay attention here.. 232, 1v? No.... 258, 2v..Yes..Only way to go here, with your budget.
74 -77 Hornet ..Looks the same to me. Nobody knows. Nobody cares.
Several guys here are very familiar with this combo.You already got the basic blueprint.
Go..

HP HUNTER 05-08-2019 07:29 AM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by pfordamx (Post 588037)
unless its changed this year due to some factoring the 1970 360 4bl is a really good Super stock combination currently with only a 260hp rating i know a couple of people who are building this combo.
Dwight pointed out some facts on a 1970 360 combination in stock, I was surprised. Should make great power.

1. Big Bore
2. Good amount of lift
3. Lots of head flow

Tom Goldman 05-08-2019 08:56 AM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 588040)
Pay attention here.. 232, 1v? No.... 258, 2v..Yes..Only way to go here, with your budget.
74 -77 Hornet ..Looks the same to me. Nobody knows. Nobody cares.
Several guys here are very familiar with this combo.You already got the basic blueprint.
Go..
Mark is correct , the '77 258 IS the best reasonably low dollar combination to build .
I've got quite a bit of experience with all the AMC combos,but the '77 258 is a very affordable build that ran run well without high dollar converters or transmissions or suspensions.

The BBD 2bbl carb is very workable , the cam and blueprint specs are very favorable.
A smart builder can run more than a couple tenth's under the index with cast Badger pistons , $100 rings ,stock rods and without doing anything to the head but the valvejob.
The 232 1 bbl combination is a looser dont waste time or money .

pfordamx 05-17-2019 01:53 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
What do you guys thank about a 79 2 door concord with a 258 2bl and a 904 torqueflight asking because we have the car and alot of the basic pieces to get it going.

Mark Yacavone 05-17-2019 06:25 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by pfordamx (Post 588666)
What do you guys thank about a 79 2 door concord with a 258 2bl and a 904 torqueflight asking because we have the car and alot of the basic pieces to get it going.
It's okay ..Makes U/SA , which is still a V8 class. Not enough heads-up around to worry about though. All the previous details still apply.

pfordamx 05-17-2019 06:42 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 588675)
It's okay ..Makes U/SA , which is still a V8 class. Not enough heads-up around to worry about though. All the previous details still apply.
14.85 doesn't seem like it would be too terribly hard to hit. could be underestimating the task though.

Mark Yacavone 05-17-2019 07:38 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by pfordamx (Post 588677)
14.85 doesn't seem like it would be too terribly hard to hit. could be underestimating the task though.
You have to be able to run that in the middle of summer. You don't want to leave too much on the table due to budget constraints.
Not fun , nor economical to have to worry about running the index all the time.

jmantle 05-17-2019 08:10 PM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 588680)
You have to be able to run that in the middle of summer. You don't want to leave too much on the table due to budget constraints.
Not fun , nor economical to have to worry about running the index all the time.
I've run 13.90's at U weight in good air, .600 under is not hard to do with a 258 2 bbl 77 or 79 trim in U. I think the 79 pistons more than make up for losing .008 in cam lift.
Ideally find something heavy enough to run V.

Jim Mantle 6632 V/SA

pfordamx 05-18-2019 11:17 AM
Re: AMC Stocker suggestions
 
didn't there used to be a cam lift rule that allowed all cars under x amount of lift to go use x amount of lift.


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