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Rick J 05-28-2024 08:58 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Another area that can get analysis paralysis.
Ring seal and rod bearings will tell you all you want to know.

JP1738 05-28-2024 09:32 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick J (Post 697816)
Another area that can get analysis paralysis.
Ring seal and rod bearings will tell you all you want to know.

Very true. I've been using the Rotella/Lucas Oil heavy duty oil stabilizer combo on the same rods, block, and crank for the last 9 years. Have yet to hurt or spin a bearing. The stocker/flat tappet cam has yet to show signs of weakness but I haven't made enough runs to justify the oil combo yet. Time will tell. Much appreciate all the input and opinions on this post though, I will definitely consider putting a better grade motor oil in my stocker, might even find a touch of hp going to a higher performance oil.

Barry Polley 05-28-2024 10:15 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jcw31 (Post 697802)
I have friends who race mini sprinters with 600 cc motorcycle engines , buzz then 12000 rpm every lap their engine builders recommend rotella 15w40 .
Just sayin.

Maybe because I’m told they use methanol? Would be my guess.

jcw31 05-28-2024 11:27 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
yes they use methanol and to a previous reply they are 4 cycles not 2 strokes, but between the rpm and lots of laps it holds up well,and im not saying its right but it works and im sure they can use whatever they want .
I just dont understand the statement its diesel oil it cant work !

Alan Roehrich 05-28-2024 08:37 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
I never said diesel oil can't work. I said diesel oil producers, who blend it, strongly recommended against using it in gasoline engines due to the higher operating RPM, and the possibility of foaming and aeration.

Alan Roehrich 05-28-2024 08:56 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 697781)
I am not sure where you got that detergents arent for race oil, but when I talked to Gibbs(driven) about using their BR30 in a race engine all the time, they recommended I don't because the break in oil has no detergent but their race oils do. That's why you get the separation in the K&P oil filter with BR30. I trust what they say



Not sure what you mean by separation, but I stopped using Driven because with every grade and type, both break in and race oils of various weights, we ended up with a ton of thick, grey, gelatinous slime in the bottom of the oil pan, regardless of which filter we used, the premium Delco, the Wix race filters, and K&N. It looked a lot like molybdenum disulfide paste. Can't say if it ever really hurt anything, but I certainly didn't care for it.

Mark Yacavone 05-28-2024 11:45 PM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JP1738 (Post 697535)
my stocker....... my engine builder prefers 30wt for his engines. .


C'mon man...

Rick J 05-29-2024 03:09 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 697859)
Not sure what you mean by separation, but I stopped using Driven because with every grade and type, both break in and race oils of various weights, we ended up with a ton of thick, grey, gelatinous slime in the bottom of the oil pan, regardless of which filter we used, the premium Delco, the Wix race filters, and K&N. It looked a lot like molybdenum disulfide paste. Can't say if it ever really hurt anything, but I certainly didn't care for it.

Same reason I stopped using it.

Steve Stasko 05-29-2024 07:27 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 697859)
Not sure what you mean by separation, but I stopped using Driven because with every grade and type, both break in and race oils of various weights, we ended up with a ton of thick, grey, gelatinous slime in the bottom of the oil pan, regardless of which filter we used, the premium Delco, the Wix race filters, and K&N. It looked a lot like molybdenum disulfide paste. Can't say if it ever really hurt anything, but I certainly didn't care for it.

I have had the same issue with VR1.

RKelliher 05-29-2024 10:14 AM

Re: Best place to buy Rotella
 
To jcw31, I never said the 600cc engine were 2 cycle. again why spend thousand on a motor and use oil not for race engines. your choice


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