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There is a simple three step plan for deciding race car colors.
1-If it will buff and shine, leave it alone. Looks like you don't have that option.
2-If you have to paint it, paint it white. Can't go wrong.
3-Whatever color your sponsor wants!

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Cortez silver....a great color. -Al

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https://i.imgur.com/1dZhBiF.jpg
Finally decided on a color. AMG Imola grey.
Stopped by yesterday to see the spray out and I’m very happy with it!! Crazy metallic and flops from a bright silver to a gun metal grey.

He’s running a week behind but it’s in the booth and should start laying paint early next week.

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Wow, going to look outstanding!

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She’s back!!!!
https://i.imgur.com/2ulKFTn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vu3GVhA.jpg

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Fastest body man I've ever heard of lol !

Looks great!

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Looks awesome!

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The wheelie bar looks a bit to long 48" or rear of bumper, unless thats changed also. Nice looking build.

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Jim, Those bars turned into $750 pile of scrap.
I ended up with the Kier bar.

Speaking of wheelie bars I totally forgot I had him make a notch in the rear valance.
https://i.imgur.com/JlZZ1xA.jpg

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Wow looks outstanding!

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Not to let that Florida guy have all the fun I’ll get a update in..

Repainted the cage (3rd time), replaces all the weather seals and small gaskets. Door handles, marker lights, bumpers and tail lights all re installed. I started on the rear carpet, just need a proper pipe to use Todd’s method of burning the cage holes.
https://i.imgur.com/xceyVfM.jpg



I’m a little pissed the body man didn’t drill the 396 fender emblem holes in the correct spot but it is what it is. I’ll come up with some solution as I can’t live with it.

UPS wearing a path in the driveway this week!!!!

1st off a big shout out to Marty from Rinehart performance. The days of dealing with Santhuff direct are long gone but Marty was great to deal with and spent the time to make sure I was getting exactly what I needed. 3mo later the missing link has arrived.
https://i.imgur.com/MSGlPzL.jpg

Front rim and tires also arrived
https://i.imgur.com/UuMrIOj.jpg




Pressure plate and bellhousing FINALLY came back. They replaced the pp fingers and did a little machining on the bell for the fork. We were able to start indexing, ended up .001 out on the parallel but 24 thou out on the concentric.
https://i.imgur.com/HiZnriJ.jpg

Probably the most important delivery was the RobbMC performance offset dowel pins. Another vendor that was great to deal with!! Someone answered the phone late sat afternoon and I had the dowels by Monday.
https://i.imgur.com/tykAlzg.jpg
Hopefully stab the motor this Sunday

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Great progress, looks fantastic.

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That is a Beautiful car sir..

It brings back a lot a great memories of when I was building mine.


Marty is great to deal with.


Keith

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Motor and trans, back in.
https://i.imgur.com/0JKFevi.jpg
I’ve been messing with the clutch fork and linkage. I have a few questions for any of the stick guys following my build.

Where should I run the spring off the fork? Factory it looks like there’s metal extension rod that connects the spring to the motor mount. I’ve also seen where guys attach a hose clamp to a header tube..

Throwout bearing to pressure plate finger clearance?? I’ve read 1/8” to 1/2”

Where is a good place to start with air gap? From the info I gathered I’m thinking of starting with .050

Re: 69 Camaro B/S
 

Air gap .050" you may be able to reduce, and TOB to levers 1/4" to 3/8".

Sean

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I've got a tab welded to the headers for my spring. .050" air gap is a good starting place. You might go a bit more if you want room to adjust your reaction time in the future.

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did you replace your stock linkage with heim joints from the pedal to the fork ? that's an upgrade worth doing
as mentioned .050 is a good place to start ,also TOB to levers should be no less than a 1/4 as for the amount of counter weight will affect how close the fingers comes to the bearing at high rpm,,
gmonde

nice build !

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Thanks guys!!

[QUOTE=gmonde;583884]did you replace your stock linkage with heim joints from the pedal to the fork ? that's an upgrade worth doing
as mentioned .050 is a good place to start ,also TOB to levers should be no less than a 1/4 as for the amount of counter weight will affect how close the fingers comes to the bearing at high rpm,,
gmonde

I am replacing the linkage. Think I need to take about 3” out of the top bar but it’s getting there.
https://i.imgur.com/mKXJ5hq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AaythJ5.jpg

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My spring runs from the bottom of the dash to the pedal, for what it's worth.

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I have the same. I also had a spring from the fork to the other end of the rod where it attaches to the Z bar to prevent the rod from popping off the fork. Since then though I had the fork modified to attach the rod with a rod end. Also, keep in mind if you are using a spacer between the block and bell for clutch clearance, that will give you more room for throw out bearing clearance. I use the shortest throw out bearing I could find available from NAPA. I can get you the number if you want. Are you planning on the Maple Grove Divisional?
Good luck with the rest of the build!

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I ended up not using a spacer. I have the McLeod adjustable throwout bearing so I should be able to dial it in.

Don’t think I’ll make the Grove. I’m also in the process of putting a new combo together for my dragster. The plan is to run most of the season at our home track (NED). I wanna get my GF some more seat time in the digger while I sort out the stocker. If everything goes good Id like to hit the Dutch for my first race in stock.

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Been busy..

Wiring is 75% done.

Got her down on the ground today to get a idea on the stance. Back sits good for no weight or fuel. The fronts right about where I want it but there’s a problem!!! How it sits the shock is bottomed out. I think Marty Rinehart sells some weld on ears to drop the shock through the lower control arm, gonna give him s call tomorrow.
https://i.imgur.com/ag4iIN3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hy2JoOm.jpg

I was inspired by the “how to lighten a stocker” thread. Put my 2 step switch bracket through a lightning program, lol can mark that off the list. Pedal stop is next.
https://i.imgur.com/GtQDIMW.jpg

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It's looking good.
Did you happen to remove one end of both front shocks to see if it's going to sit even lower?

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I did not, I had to add a few old batteries as weight to counter for the hood, battery and water and that just gets the shock bottomed out.

Looks like I might have bigger problems, I emailed Marty last night and he got right back to me. Apparently the ears only add 3/4”. Something tells me I have the incorrect length shock. . Gonna pull one today and measure.

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Car looks great!

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Great build.But I noticed Tim Stickle's post on roll cage bars extending past firewall. He is right according to my 2019 rule book.The general rules seem to refer to corvettes.My want to call NHRA tech.Don't want to see you have trouble at tech in a race. Also check rule on radiator. Again ,great build.

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The rule on the bars is like 3 years old now. I was told about this by Dave Ley at the end of the season before the change. The following year I spoke to the lead tech at National event.

Look closer at the rule book..... Roll BAR can NOT run past firewall.
Roll CAGE CAN run past firewall and over inner fenders connecting to frame horns.

I think it’s been 5 years or so since they allowed aluminum replacement radiators and that’s exactly what I have.

I’m sure my build pisses off some of the old school stock racers but I set out on a mission to build this car to today’s rules. Race seats, aluminum radiator, aftermarket heads, roller rockers, over caged, ect.....

Don’t hate the player, hate the game..lol

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Can’t say enough about Marty and Rineharts Performance, not only did he email me back last night he called me on his way in this morning. So I have the correct length shocks but it looks like the way I have them mounded is causing the shock body to catch the frame pocket. Should be a easy fix with his brackets
https://i.imgur.com/3i1BbkE.jpg

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Can you post where you found this listed in rule book about bars extending past firewall with cage.

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Under firewall
https://i.imgur.com/ZoXJJsP.png

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Great looking car. You should be very proud doing a build from the ground up. Barry

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Looking great.

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Thank you.......great job on build

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Progress has been slow trying to sort out the new dragster motor.

The new shock mounts should be done this week. Hopefully starting getting on it again but every day I see my goal of the Dutch slipping away.

Just got some stuff back from the hydro dipper. Stuff came out great, it’s tough to tell the real carbon from the hydro dip.
https://i.imgur.com/XpEmlyb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0i2m2Ko.jpg

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Picked up a 1’x1’ pice of carbon to cover the holes in the dash pad and ended up on a mission to use it all...
https://i.imgur.com/EFNqzTy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zXWUBjx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XrWnrao.jpg

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Ok... enough sulking about the new dragster motor, I’ll get into this later but for now it’s time to get back on this stocker.

So after some back and forth we decided to give Alan’s idea I shot rather than a “technical tap” on the header. We took about a 1/8 of the bosses and looks like I’ve got plenty clearance even with the header gasket.
https://i.imgur.com/sLXhdNL.jpg

Some needed stuff also arrived.
RobbMC starter and battery cables to finish out the wiring

https://i.imgur.com/LsnjDrY.jpg

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Glad it worked out. I did it for clearance on #7 and the box. -Al

https://i.imgur.com/O0JTGV8l.jpg?1

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Time for a little update....

Once the car was on the ground I felt the seat brackets I made had me sitting a little high. I ended up with these from Rhodes race cars. Much more comfortable and still bolt in stock location.
https://i.imgur.com/N09Mj1w.jpg

Plumbing and wiring is just about finished up under the hood.
https://i.imgur.com/L2lGUBu.jpg

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Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy!!!

Figured time for a update.

1st off a huge thanks to Glen Sanders. Not only are his rims a thing of art his customer service it top notch!
https://i.imgur.com/E75sipZ.jpg

My original plan was to use the newer style willwood master cylinder. I also wanted to use the bickel brake rod retainer but it turns out they won’t work together.

I decided to just use the Mopar style, I didn’t really want to open and elongate the mounting holes so I found this trick adapter from TRZ Motorsports.
https://i.imgur.com/wPpaGhJ.jpg
The hole was 5 thou small for the Bickel kit, a little sanding and it fits together perfect.
https://i.imgur.com/MChMZZO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cObqUXX.jpg

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Big thanks to Mark Markow race cars in south Windsor CT.

Was able to cross a bunch of big stuff off the list..

Had the rear end centered up and pinion angle set then welded the Calvert perches.

Also had him add a tab for the racepak censor. The pick up had to be machined to fit around the yolk.
https://i.imgur.com/1ti41zV.jpg

Added a net
https://i.imgur.com/m7b0sko.jpg

Getting the car set up for weight has been on my mind for a while. Mark nailed it!! Also provisions above the axle for the small bars and brackets where the rear seat would be for the large bars.
https://i.imgur.com/2rDS0Eq.jpg