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Nmbr1GMfan 07-09-2018 03:43 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfordamx (Post 566984)
we just recently swapped from drum to aerospace rear disk on our amx weight savings was 30lbs total about 20 of which was rotating i can't give any real performance data we changed engines too part of the winter upgrades. But that's roughly the weight savings.

Thanks

6130 07-09-2018 06:42 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Todd, I don't know whether you plan for her to run H, I, or J Stock, but I guess one consideration would be how often you think your daughter would be likely to come up against a stick car in her class. It looks like you've done a lot of high-quality work there- I see no reason the car shouldn't run under index. And if heads-up races are unlikely, then the rear brakes may not matter from a performance perspective.

From a safety perspective, disc brakes would be better. Especially when racing with breakout rules.

Most automotive drum brakes are self-energizing, so the actual braking force is progressive, rather than linear. A light push on the pedal would result in almost no braking force in the rear, a moderate push on the brake pedal would result in moderate braking force in the rear, and a hard push on the brake pedal may result in rear brake lockup. I'm sure we've all driven a car from the '60s with power 4-wheel drum brakes- you know this feeling, where light pedal pressure does nothing, moderate brake pedal pressure gives you the braking force that you're aiming for, and heavy brake pedal pressure locks up the wheels unexpectedly.

This is compounded with the vehicle's weight transfer under braking- the harder the driver brakes, the more weight is transferred to the front- and yet the rear brake forces ramp up disproportionate to the actual brake pedal pressure, while the front brakes are responding in a linear fashion.

Disc brakes are much less likely to lock up, because they are much more linear- the actual braking force is directly proportional to the brake pedal pressure. This makes it much easier to modulate the brakes- they are more forgiving.

And with a properly set-up disc/disc set-up, the braking forces stay proportionally balanced (all things being equal), which helps to diminish rear wheel lockup as weight is transferred to the front under braking, much more so than a comparable disc/drum arrangement.

Joe Marcinowski 07-10-2018 07:19 AM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
I just did the brake swap on my 79 Camaro. I had iron drums on the rear and it saved 19 lbs total weight and 14 lbs rotating. I used the Strange Eng kit. If your shock set-up is like the Camaro, order an extra right side caliper bracket so you can flip the left side caliper to the front for shock clearance. I changed the front and rear at the same time and picked up .03 nearest I can figure.

Nmbr1GMfan 07-27-2018 05:32 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Thanks for all the brake info guys!

Nmbr1GMfan 07-27-2018 05:34 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
WE'RE BACK! After two weeks gone and a week of work it'll be nice to get a few things done to the car this weekend.

Nmbr1GMfan 07-29-2018 04:55 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Didn't get a whole lot done this weekend. Pulled the axles and backing plates off the rear, moved a bunch of stuff and got the tools sorted. Biggest thing was parts, we had to sit down and make a parts list so I can get them ordered up this week so the work can commence. A bit of a slow start, but a start none the less.

Nmbr1GMfan 08-01-2018 05:44 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Mails here! Random cooling system pieces and enough to get a start on the fuel system.
https://i.imgur.com/n2xPBtQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hkep2Ls.jpg

J&S Racing 08-01-2018 09:23 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Fragola & aeromotive fittings.... Baller!!

Nmbr1GMfan 08-01-2018 10:23 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J&S Racing (Post 568958)
Fragola & aeromotive fittings.... Baller!!

Just for that I'm stealing your regulator mounting bracket idea! :D:D:D

Nmbr1GMfan 08-02-2018 04:11 PM

Re: H-I-J '76 Nova re-fit.
 
More mail fun... and a -8 removal -10 install
https://i.imgur.com/BlZmhef.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MUudVEw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PUX0CGG.jpg


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