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SSGN 09-11-2016 08:47 AM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
Nice car and great to see some Buicks out there. I remember this car when it was for sale a few years ago. Good luck and post up some pics.

HP HUNTER 09-11-2016 07:24 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
I have the complete engine torn down, block and crank cleaned. What I've learned: the 661 heads flow about the same as the 149 castings which is good because they seem to be very hard to come by, I have bearing clearance issues to deal with on the mains, the cam tunnel has been opened up on the high side of the spec, hopefully a coated bearing will help there. Rods are stock Buick with Venolia pistons, some deck heights to deal with, seems I have something I can work with here.

HP HUNTER 09-14-2016 09:52 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
At this point I have the intake side of my head where I want it, its time to look at the exhaust side. Intake valve size is 2.005 on 315/330 HP 455. Valve job is 30/45/60 30 degree back cut on the valve.

goinbroke2 09-16-2016 01:48 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
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Originally Posted by HP HUNTER (Post 514856)
At this point I have the intake side of my head where I want it, its time to look at the exhaust side. Intake valve size is 2.005 on 315/330 HP 455. Valve job is 30/45/60 30 degree back cut on the valve.

Really? 30/45/60 30degree back cut.....so a normal 3 angle cut? Did you flow the different angles and the 45 seat with 30/60 on either side flowed the best? That's interesting and certainly not what I was expecting. Having never seen the chamber I'll assume from that, that the chamber is big enough to not shroud the valve. (or the valve is small enough to not need the help)?

How wide did you make the seat?

From what others experienced with Pontiac's mimicking sbf flow characteristics, I thought the buick would follow suit. Apparently not!

Excellent, keep it going, let's see what the exh needs!

GTOMayhem 09-16-2016 03:19 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
goingbroke you have a PM

Thanks
Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

HP HUNTER 09-16-2016 10:12 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
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Originally Posted by goinbroke2 (Post 514977)
Really? 30/45/60 30degree back cut.....so a normal 3 angle cut? Did you flow the different angles and the 45 seat with 30/60 on either side flowed the best? That's interesting and certainly not what I was expecting. Having never seen the chamber I'll assume from that, that the chamber is big enough to not shroud the valve. (or the valve is small enough to not need the help)?

How wide did you make the seat?

From what others experienced with Pontiac's mimicking sbf flow characteristics, I thought the buick would follow suit. Apparently not!

Excellent, keep it going, let's see what the exh needs!

I wouldn't say my angles are optimum, but I was happy with my gains from the previous setup. The 45 was .040 wide. Its important to note the engine as run as tested (474 HP) in this thread had flow numbers @ 28" of

.200 131.9
.300 185
.400 211.7

Which leads me to this: 176 CFM @ 28" through the intake manifold @ .400 lift, which makes me wonder if there is lofting of the valve involved as mentioned by a friend?

HP HUNTER 09-17-2016 09:05 AM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
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Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 514480)
Nice car and great to see some Buicks out there. I remember this car when it was for sale a few years ago. Good luck and post up some pics.

Here you go.....

Todd Hoven 09-20-2016 08:48 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
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Originally Posted by HP HUNTER (Post 515018)
Here you go.....

Looks awesome! Cant wait to hear how it runs. Good luck

HP HUNTER 10-17-2016 08:38 PM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
My head development is done, some gains were made. Working on the short block now, it seems the piston/rod combination is "only" 239 grams over the minimum so something will have to be done. The ring pack will be updated as well. Deck height will also have to be looked at. I very much look forward to getting this engine back on the dyno!

SSGN 11-20-2016 09:59 AM

Re: 1971 Buick 455 GS F/SA G/SA Build
 
How is the hard work coming along.? Nice build and some more pics would be great.


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