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Barry Polley 01-10-2023 12:58 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 673856)
I think that would be COOL!

(Would it run Stock or just Super Stock?)

Stock of course!

Billy Nees 01-10-2023 08:48 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
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Originally Posted by GUMP (Post 673805)
But honestly, what are the automakers doing today that is so different from 1969?

This continual bashing of legal cars is getting old.

Daren, REALLY? You know darned well that there's a WORLD of difference between what the OEMs are doing and selling today vs.1969! A new COPO isn't even remotely close to what's going through the Dealer's doors. And OBTW, I AM old enough to have been able to see '69 COPOs sitting on Dealer's lots.
Am I missing something?

TOSTO RACING 01-10-2023 09:02 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
All the stuff thats allowed in Stock and (going on) you guys are worried about another COPO combination LOL let it in whats the difference now lol. Its the Camaros last year.

Better yet just make stock a 9 inch tire class and correct cubic inch and part numbers for the year and make claimed, and anything else goes .


Oh wait that is what STOCK is already never mind lol!!!

GUMP 01-10-2023 09:32 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 673867)
Daren, REALLY? You know darned well that there's a WORLD of difference between what the OEMs are doing and selling today vs.1969! A new COPO isn't even remotely close to what's going through the Dealer's doors. And OBTW, I AM old enough to have been able to see '69 COPOs sitting on Dealer's lots.
Am I missing something?

John made a very good point when he said, "Whole different time and tech..."

That has been my point since these new cars first appeared in 2008. They are exactly what you get if you build a new car according to the current rules. Which is also exactly how we got COPO Camaros in 1969.

I have two cars that I am running that have the production block, head castings, and rockers. They also run with true hydraulic lifters and beehive springs. How many Stock Racers can still say that?

I have said over and over that I feel some combinations probably shouldn't have made the cut.

You only miss what you refuse to see...

442OLDS 01-10-2023 09:40 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
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Originally Posted by TOSTO RACING (Post 673868)

Better yet just make stock a 9 inch tire class and correct cubic inch and part numbers for the year and make claimed, and anything else goes .


Oh wait that is what STOCK is already never mind lol!!!

Actually, I had a post in tech but it hasn't had much interest.
It's not even a 9 inch tire class anymore.Only Gump so far seems to know what I'm talking about.lol.

TOSTO RACING 01-10-2023 10:12 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
Yeh saw that.

Well love it , hate it , bitch about it (guilty) , its still the most fun you can have on 4 wheels. There's nothing like pulling in the lanes getting paired up on the ladder seeing all the badass cars. :)

Remember you gotta have fun and enjoy it !!

Barry Polley 01-10-2023 10:53 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
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Originally Posted by 442OLDS (Post 673872)
Actually, I had a post in tech but it hasn't had much interest.
It's not even a 9 inch tire class anymore.Only Gump so far seems to know what I'm talking about.lol.

Not too many will talk about the large 9… easy to spot but There were blind eyes !
A factory race car with a factory race motor and 4 link should not be in stock period.

Barry Polley 01-10-2023 11:25 AM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
Gump, not throwing darts at you! We race what they tell us we can race.

GUMP 01-10-2023 12:03 PM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
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Originally Posted by Barry Polley (Post 673879)
Gump, not throwing darts at you! We race what they tell us we can race.

Not taken that way at all. I think that these are conversations worth having.

In 2010 I got one of the first Body-In-White Camaros. At that time I tried to work with Chevrolet to put a torque arm in it. Knowing that whatever the NHRA approved would be the standard going ahead, I didn't want to rock the boat by going directly to them myself. It was my thought that the torque arm would be the least controversial option. Obviously, that did not go my way.

That said, the four link is nowhere near as forgiving as a torque arm set-up.

The precedent had already been set for the Corvettes to run a solid rear. So, the NHRA had to allow something. I really don't see the four link as any great advantage.

Tony Fagnilli 01-10-2023 12:45 PM

Re: 2023 COPO Camaro 632
 
I'm not exactly sure what all the hub-bub is about. Why would anyone care what combinations the NHRA allows? unless it's a heads up, it is just bracket racing.


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