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tommy d 07-06-2014 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 437010)
The engine liked 5700-5800 on the upshifts and pulled through nicely at 6300, but since they were only running 1/8 mile, i didnt get times for the 1/4... goin
up on Wednesday to do some tweaking...

Brent, glad to see things are coming around. This is a interesting thread with some really smart guys chiming in. Tommy.

bob3240 07-06-2014 06:51 PM

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Glad it's coming around Brent. Looks good leaving the line. (What was that ole car behind you lol)?

brent flynn 07-07-2014 10:21 PM

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THanks Bob! Gettin there slowly... That '62 Grand Prix belongs to Gene Gabbard of Centerville/Richmond area...it runs high 10's ...

Im taking Bird Wednesday eve to do some tuning...havent done any tuning yet...just changed gears twice and put good valvesprings on... same jetting, timing, oil, as i started with. Gonna work with header collectors too...I hope to find some 11.30s, or better...

brent flynn 07-10-2014 10:57 PM

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Well, i havent found much ET yet, but, i did manage to go a few rounds and win the Slick tire class trophy last night...here is a pic of the final...11.58/114.58 best so far...air was crap, i was probably a tad rich...gettin there, slowly...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...09503784_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/...65166449_n.jpg

HandOverFist 07-11-2014 01:19 AM

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It's fun going rounds anytime! :)

bob3240 07-11-2014 01:02 PM

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congrats, Brent!

Dave Ribeiro 07-11-2014 01:05 PM

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Brent,

Your on the right track , just watch those valve springs ????

brent flynn 07-11-2014 11:11 PM

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Yes it is, Rich... makes all the crap seem worth it...hehe

brent flynn 07-11-2014 11:14 PM

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Thanks Bob and Dave...
Dave, i have 160/350# springs on it...crossing the line at 6300, shifting around 5700-5800... I may have been a tad rich, with .044s in the secondaries, so im gonna try some .052s, long tips, with .065 primary jets( same jets ive been running)... i went to .040s , on Wed eve, and slowed down in 60' about .015, it didnt like it...

HandOverFist 07-12-2014 12:06 AM

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Got CK's (052) in the back and 66 primary in ours atm Brent. We tried 057's Saturday night, but I think we found the lean point.

brent flynn 07-13-2014 12:42 AM

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mine didnt like the .052s, even as bad as the air was... went back to .044s , to get the 60' feel back...and it did pick up some, and ran 3 11.77s in a row... ran 11.58 on Wed! Air was awful, and head a stiff headwind... only managed 112.48 from almost 115, this past Wed...some of the worst air conditions, that ive seen, at Muncie...

brent flynn 07-22-2014 08:44 PM

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I thought i'd post a side view of my car, sittin in the lanes:) It wasnt extremely fast, but ran 11.54 and 11.53 in qualifying, at 114.76... Went out 1st round, with a -.001 red. Rick Winchester was in the other lane, in an H/SA Camaro, and was dialed about a tenth faster than i was...if i woulda went green, .020-.030, it woulda been a fun race... All in all, i had a great learning experience, met some great people, and finally got to run an NHRA event(1st ever). Lookin forward to Indy in October!
Almost forgot, ended up pulling weight out of the car, and ran E/SA, because, even with the added weight, i was 60lb light, for F... Last time i weighed the car at Norwalk, it weighed 3550, with me... before the 80lb added weight...Apparently, they had a temp calibrate the scales...(this was at an all Pontiac event).
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...59189278_n.jpg

tommy d 07-22-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 438911)
I thought i'd post a side view of my car, sittin in the lanes:) It wasnt extremely fast, but ran 11.54 and 11.53 in qualifying, at 114.76... Went out 1st round, with a -.001 red. Rick Winchester was in the other lane, in an H/SA Camaro, and was dialed about a tenth faster than i was...if i woulda went green, .020-.030, it woulda been a fun race... All in all, i had a great learning experience, met some great people, and finally got to run an NHRA event(1st ever). Lookin forward to Indy in October!
Almost forgot, ended up pulling weight out of the car, and ran E/SA, because, even with the added weight, i was 60lb light, for F... Last time i weighed the car at Norwalk, it weighed 3550, with me... before the 80lb added weight...Apparently, they had a temp calibrate the scales...(this was at an all Pontiac event).
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...59189278_n.jpg

Car looks great! Keep chippin' away.

brent flynn 07-22-2014 09:42 PM

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Thanks Tom... i will!

Geerhead55 07-23-2014 01:03 AM

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Car looks great, Brent. Glad you had a good time. Did you check out the 2 photos that Michael Beard posted of you in the "Live From Columbus" divisional thread? Take care.
Danny Durham

brent flynn 07-23-2014 06:28 AM

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Thanks! Yep, saw them... i looked like an old timer...hehe

Dave Noll 07-24-2014 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 437686)
Thanks Bob and Dave...
Dave, i have 160/350# springs on it...crossing the line at 6300, shifting around 5700-5800...

Been following this thread from the beginning, love it. Have a question about your cam & springs. Currently i have about the same seat pressure but less open. Similar RPM is what I'm shooting for. Is yours a conventional style lobe or a dwell lobe ?

brent flynn 07-25-2014 12:36 AM

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My lobes are not 'square' on top... fairly mild grind, but still 251/256 duration... Not sure if i lost some HP, goin to this slightly milder cam... I only ran the other more aggressive cam, one pass, and it was only half track. Thinkin about having it reground, nitrided and coated , and trying it next year...

Dave Noll 07-25-2014 05:35 PM

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Yours sounds more like what Bullet recommended for my car. But I went with someone else & I have a square lobe cam. When I get some extra money I want to try the smaller one. Be interested to hear the results if you try the big one. (at least the big one sounds gnarly :D )

brent flynn 08-03-2014 09:48 PM

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Went 5 rounds last night...last 6 cars... ran 11.54/11.55 all day...
had a blast ...1.528-1.538 60fts... left it as it was at Columbus...


https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...96546067_n.jpg

Dave Ribeiro 08-03-2014 10:11 PM

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Brent,

Car looks great leaving , keep picking away at it & keep checking those valve springs .... Good Luck ...

HandOverFist 08-03-2014 10:28 PM

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Best of luck Brent! I just wasnt satisfied with our performance so I'm in search of some more hp atm...

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psf3c6b838.jpg

Geerhead55 08-04-2014 12:30 AM

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Oh,,,, so THATS what those little single axle trailers are for!
Danny Durham

brent flynn 08-10-2014 07:28 PM

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Had another good night last night,,, went rounds, down to 3 cars... ran best ET so far 11.506 with 1.525 60ft... took way too much stripe... car picked up .03 out of nowhere...heat in converter, probably... had a great night...made 50$ for my trouble...and didnt have to buy back 1st round...last week, either:) Almost .20 under E car!! hehe

https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...34648817_n.jpg

HandOverFist 08-10-2014 07:36 PM

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Sounds like you are having fun Brent. I used to have a car to take to the track...:o

brent flynn 08-10-2014 10:24 PM

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yea, Rich, im having some fun, no doubt... Its not fast, for an E car, but, im gonna have to be satisfied with it, for awhile... Just dont have the funds to race it AND spend money on it... im ok with that...racing it, fast or slow, is the most important thing to me... You will get yours done, and i see some good performance coming your way... you were having some problems...Just glad you didnt implode it, before you tore it dow....

brent flynn 09-10-2014 10:37 PM

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Hey Y'all... been a busy guy lately... got a couple good races in, 5 rounds each, went to Switzerland and France, came back, got some good #'s out of my street '72 Lemans Wagon( 13.82 on the brakes) and working my machine shop job. No racing this weekend( Muncie closed, due to Bracket Finals in Indy). SO , back at it next weekend. Hoping for some 11.40s! Here is a pic or 2 of the beast...hehe and a link to my band in Switzerland, 2013 CHeck it out! Rock and Roll!! Im the long haired hippie, on guitar...hehe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYNFTTl_8c


https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...490a849ea64adf

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...be79957a9c9d7f

HandOverFist 09-11-2014 01:47 AM

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Great job with the car as well as the guitar Brent! :cool:

tommy d 09-11-2014 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 445569)
Hey Y'all... been a busy guy lately... got a couple good races in, 5 rounds each, went to Switzerland and France, came back, got some good #'s out of my street '72 Lemans Wagon( 13.82 on the brakes) and working my machine shop job. No racing this weekend( Muncie closed, due to Bracket Finals in Indy). SO , back at it next weekend. Hoping for some 11.40s! Here is a pic or 2 of the beast...hehe and a link to my band in Switzerland, 2013 CHeck it out! Rock and Roll!! Im the long haired hippie, on guitar...hehe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYNFTTl_8c


https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...490a849ea64adf

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...be79957a9c9d7f

I assume YOU own this car "with the peace sign, mag wheels and four on the floor"? Darn hippies!

Ronnie Smith Jr 09-11-2014 11:34 AM

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Enjoyed the music and the updates on the car. Keep jamming....

JP 09-11-2014 11:35 AM

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Cool car and great music!

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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 445569)
Hey Y'all... been a busy guy lately... got a couple good races in, 5 rounds each, went to Switzerland and France, came back, got some good #'s out of my street '72 Lemans Wagon( 13.82 on the brakes) and working my machine shop job. No racing this weekend( Muncie closed, due to Bracket Finals in Indy). SO , back at it next weekend. Hoping for some 11.40s! Here is a pic or 2 of the beast...hehe and a link to my band in Switzerland, 2013 CHeck it out! Rock and Roll!! Im the long haired hippie, on guitar...hehe


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYNFTTl_8c


https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...490a849ea64adf

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...be79957a9c9d7f


GallopinGhost 09-11-2014 09:31 PM

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Great job on the car. Music is really good. Southern rock in Switzerland . Cool !

brent flynn 09-14-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 445582)
I assume YOU own this car "with the peace sign, mag wheels and four on the floor"? Darn hippies!

Right on, Tom! hehe.... Thanks Y'all... Got a little time off, before next gig...still workin normal 40+ hrs week in a fab shop... Hoping to ring some 11.40s out of the Bird this weekend, but found out Muncie is running some big bucks race, they dont run Sportsman when they do that, so may go to Bunker Hill and try my luck on the 1/8 mile... wanting to beat 7.25/93mph...and win some rounds in the process...hehe

Mike Comp T/A #57 09-18-2014 06:16 AM

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Awesome concert Brent!
BTW Congrats on your new best with the wagon!
Mike Alford

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Originally Posted by brent flynn (Post 445569)
a link to my band in Switzerland, 2013 CHeck it out! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPYNFTTl_8c


Shaun Quill 09-18-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JP (Post 445619)
Cool car and great music!

That is one Bad*ss Stance!!!!!

brent flynn 09-18-2014 10:26 PM

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THanks Mike and Shaun! Yea, car looks mean as hell...hehe... Not super fast, but its super fun! :D

brent flynn 09-18-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Comp T/A #57 (Post 446546)
Awesome concert Brent!
BTW Congrats on your new best with the wagon!
Mike Alford

Yeah, Mike...thanks!
I cant believe that old heap went 13.79 on 235/70 Mastercrafts!
and 13.81, right after. Cam is hurting it quite a bit...may swap it out next year...pretty fun car....

bob3240 09-20-2014 05:53 PM

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Congrats Bret. You're on the right track!

brent flynn 09-28-2014 03:01 AM

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Went 5 rounds tonight... only to take a massive crap on the starting line...good news is a new best ... 11.493 on a 11.50 5th round loss....:rolleyes:

Mark Yacavone 09-28-2014 01:18 PM

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Brent, That transmission must really be hurting your car.
Didn't someone offer you a deal on a T350 package?


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