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HandOverFist 11-29-2014 08:55 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 454176)
If I could back up just a bit. How difficult was it to replace those control arm bushings ? I need to do that to my Cougar.


I've always just used a propane torch Dave. Heat the metal shells until the rubber starts to melt and you can easily punch them out with a hammer/drift...took me about 20 minutes for all four bushings.

FireSale 11-29-2014 08:11 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 454174)
It was a bit of a battle by myself...amazing how quickly things let go when you break out the die grinder/cut-off wheel. The one redeeming feature of this car is when you pull the transmission the engine doesn't drop backwards like it does in the Camaro...sits perfectly level on the K-member until it's plucked out.

I found that to be a redeeming feature on my 68 coupe when I had to deal with a vexing trans leak. I could pull the trans and bell housing for machine work and new seals without pulling the engine. A bit of a stunt without a lift, though...

Dale

HandOverFist 11-29-2014 08:50 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Slowly but surely removing the garbage from this car. Front brakes and manual rack in...been a fairly productive Thanksgiving weekend.


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1eb07872.jpg


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Dave Noll 12-01-2014 02:10 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 454180)
I've always just used a propane torch Dave. Heat the metal shells until the rubber starts to melt and you can easily punch them out with a hammer/drift...took me about 20 minutes for all four bushings.

Thanks Rich, I see it now. :D

7423 12-09-2014 09:34 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
I need my weekly dose of........watching someone else work really hard. What the hay is happening with that Mustang? Nothing for 8 days, what up wit dat??

HandOverFist 12-09-2014 11:32 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Here lately I've just been cleaning up the engine bay and going thru the mass of wiring. I have a bit of painting to do and I'm trying to time it with the prevailing weather...it needs to happen soon if it's going to happen this year. I do have the manual brake parts to install as well as a new aluminum radiator w/fans that I picked up for $149.


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psb16be29b.jpg


I need to get my rings finished for the Camaro so I can begin putting it back together. It needs to be finished and out of the way before I can bring the 302 home and tear it down.

HandOverFist 12-11-2014 11:28 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Somehow managed to get some pieces painted today despite the cold...probably crack off like a M&M candy shell lol. If it turns out as good as I think it is I may end up painting the entire car...dammit.


http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps1380ed65.jpg


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HandOverFist 12-13-2014 10:39 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Got the trunk area and engine bay touched up yesterday. I still have to yank that windshield washer bottle out of the fender.

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This afternoon was a light day...all I did was mount the manual m/c and clean up the shop.

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Here is the custom 3 gallon cell w/in-tank efi pump. Going to mount it high on a bracket which will extend out both sides for weight boxes.

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New radiator fits fine despite the tweaked radiator support.

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HandOverFist 12-14-2014 11:30 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
A question for anyone who might know -

I have asked this question on some Mustang forums with no replies to date. When I removed the luggage rack and spoiler from the donor trunk lid I ran into a problem. The spoiler was attached to the lid with a screw at each end...no problem. The third brake light housing was attached to the lid with two long screws...problem is the spoiler sits on top of the housing preventing access to the screws. With the spoiler loose on both ends I pried some to try and separate the two pieces to no avail...finally just took a die grinder under the trunk lid and cut off the protruding screws to release it. I will need to figure out how this works in order to put all the pieces back on the newly painted lid. Maybe some adhesive was used between the bottom of the spoiler and top of the brake housing? Just looking for advice before I get heavy handed and break something.

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SSGT Mustang 12-15-2014 09:23 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
You're correct about the adhesive. There's a patch of black adhesive in the recess of the brake light that bonds to the bar. Use a heat gun and pry the two apart.

By the way, you can do away with the luggage rack and add a spoiler if you claim the car as a 1993. There is a special edition convertible for 1993 that has a factory spoiler that looks nice.

HandOverFist 12-15-2014 09:30 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
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Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang (Post 455265)
You're correct about the adhesive. There's a patch of black adhesive in the recess of the brake light that bonds to the bar. Use a heat gun and pry the two apart.

By the way, you can do away with the luggage rack and add a spoiler if you claim the car as a 1993. There is a special edition convertible for 1993 that has a factory spoiler that looks nice.

Thanks buddy...I thought I was losing my mind lol. Knew there being screws under it had to come apart somehow.

SSGT Mustang 12-15-2014 09:40 AM

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My pleasure.

About that spoiler. You may not be able to go that route, if that's something you're interested in doing, since it may have only come on LX models. I'm not sure if it was available with GT ground effects. If you really wanted to have that spoiler, you could take off the GT effects, and put on LX front and rear bumper covers.

I'm not sure if anyone else has a 1993 special edition stocker or super stocker. You could be the first.....

Anyway, just a thought.

HandOverFist 12-15-2014 09:55 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang (Post 455267)
My pleasure.

About that spoiler. You may not be able to go that route, if that's something you're interested in doing, since it may have only come on LX models. I'm not sure if it was available with GT ground effects. If you really wanted to have that spoiler, you could take off the GT effects, and put on LX front and rear bumper covers.

I'm not sure if anyone else has a 1993 special edition stocker or super stocker. You could be the first.....

Anyway, just a thought.

Are you talking about the one you suggested or the one I have currently? The spoiler/rack that I have is the same as the one on Brian Thompson's 1989.

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps3e307822.jpg

SSGT Mustang 12-15-2014 10:16 AM

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No, it's the 1993 Mustang Special Edition. I think that they came in yellow, red and white, but you can change the color to whatever you like. Black on chrome would be very cool.

Here's a link that I got from Google to ebay which will give you an idea of what the car and spoiler look like.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Ford-Mu...p2047675.l2557

Here's another example.

https://www.triplewhitefox.com/mustang-index

HandOverFist 12-15-2014 10:28 AM

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That would be an option running 150+ pounds lighter and M/SA...think I will stick with the original game plan for now tho.

Dang...that ebay LX sold for only $3500. Glad I didnt see it earlier lol.

SSGT Mustang 12-15-2014 10:51 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 455271)
That would be an option running 150+ pounds lighter and M/SA...think I will stick with the original game plan for now tho.

Dang...that ebay LX sold for only $3500. Glad I didnt see it earlier lol.

Yeah, looks like they're giving them away these days. Sign of the times.

HandOverFist 12-20-2014 01:11 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Still slogging away on it. Got the trunk lid back on the car...working on a wire harness tuck in the engine bay right now.

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Need to rig up a relay for these fans.

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FireSale 12-20-2014 03:36 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
I have a single two speed fan in my 68. One circuit is on the thermostat and the other is on a manual switch. That way I can run the fan on low with the electric water pump on to cool the car with the engine off.

In regards to comments on deleting heater controls over in your Camaro thread, the "keep the controls" rule leaves me scratching my head. I kept them but threw out all the mechanics behind it. The levers just flop there. I understand the stock dash, but heater controls aren't in the dash. At least in my car.

Dale

HandOverFist 12-20-2014 05:10 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 455790)
I have a single two speed fan in my 68. One circuit is on the thermostat and the other is on a manual switch. That way I can run the fan on low with the electric water pump on to cool the car with the engine off.

In regards to comments on deleting heater controls over in your Camaro thread, the "keep the controls" rule leaves me scratching my head. I kept them but threw out all the mechanics behind it. The levers just flop there. I understand the stock dash, but heater controls aren't in the dash. At least in my car.

Dale

Yeah, most cars are required to keep the controls in the dash. Ours were missing when we bought the car...not sure if there was a factory heater delete offered for the Camaro's in 1967.

HandOverFist 12-21-2014 04:38 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Feeling a little under the weather today so I stayed close to home. I did manage to get all the interior parts painted/dyed today. Took my inspiration from this photo...

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A sneak preview...

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It will be a stark contrast to the way it looked in the beginning.

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HandOverFist 12-22-2014 12:02 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Still no luck with finding a engine management system...everytime I find something I get outbid.

Question for the Mustang racers...what type of air system works best on these engines? Are the aftermarket cold air kits legal?

Tony Corley 12-22-2014 03:05 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Been following your build. Why not use the MegaSquirt standalone engine management? Fairly cheap for what you get, especially since you can eliminate the mass air. You can buy it in kit form and build it yourself to save even more.

HandOverFist 12-22-2014 03:38 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Want to stay mass air to begin with. I just bought a used Anderson PMS IV today so I should be covered in that area now.

Tony Corley 12-22-2014 04:45 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
The Anderson works well, I have used it many times before. But there is a little bit of power to be made getting the mass air out of the way. The only reason I would run piggyback over a standalone is if rules required it, (which as far as I can tell, they don't here) As far as budget, for what the Megasquirt costs about the same as you pay for a used Anderson PMS, factory computer and aftermarket mass air meter.
Enjoying the build, please keep updating.

HandOverFist 12-28-2014 04:13 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
This is going to be different...can't be any harder than a Q-jet, right? :rolleyes:

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Jon Sarrett 12-28-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 456599)
This is going to be different...can't be any harder than a Q-jet, right? :rolleyes:


Prepare to add some grey hairs! I thought getting one of these set up would be a little easier but mine has proven to be a total PITA. I hope yours goes smoother than mine did!

HandOverFist 12-28-2014 06:27 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Sarrett (Post 456672)
Prepare to add some grey hairs! I thought getting one of these set up would be a little easier but mine has proven to be a total PITA. I hope yours goes smoother than mine did!

You using a PMS Jon? My plans are to just begin with the factory settings after setting the TPS...should at least attempt to start. :p

Just what I expected...what a crusty mess. At least the crankshaft looks salvageable.

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Look at them itty-bitty valves...dont see how these run as good as they do.

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partsbob67 12-28-2014 10:48 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
I've been following your build. I run the pms on my stocker and it works ok. pretty easy to use. chassis dyno is your friend! good luck with your project.

HandOverFist 01-03-2015 03:12 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Not needed on this car, but I ran across this Aerospace rear brake system for half price and could'nt pass on it. This one may never have much go, but it will definitely whoa hehe. Much easier/quicker to pull the axles vs the drum set-up to boot.

While the engine parts are at the machine shop I think I shall begin putting the interior back in the car...be prepared for a shocking change in appearance. :)

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...ps164322e4.jpg

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tommy d 01-03-2015 09:19 AM

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Thanks for the updates. When my granddaughter is done with Jr's, we are going to need to find something else for her to race. I have everything to put my 64 Fairlane back out there but a Fox body would be the cheapest way to go.

HandOverFist 01-03-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 457294)
Thanks for the updates. When my granddaughter is done with Jr's, we are going to need to find something else for her to race. I have everything to put my 64 Fairlane back out there but a Fox body would be the cheapest way to go.

I'll agree that the Foxbody is relatively cheaper to build than most Tommy, but to be honest I could have bought a complete running car cheaper than for what I will ultimately have invested in this one. ;)

FireSale 01-03-2015 12:53 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 457294)
Thanks for the updates. When my granddaughter is done with Jr's, we are going to need to find something else for her to race. I have everything to put my 64 Fairlane back out there but a Fox body would be the cheapest way to go.

Do the Fairlane! I can think of nothing cooler than a teenage girl staging a 64 Fairlane against some old coot in a Dodge.

Dale

HandOverFist 01-03-2015 09:13 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Just noticed today I had the calipers upside down...corrected. Carpet in the morning.

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tommy d 01-03-2015 10:32 PM

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Do the Fairlane! I can think of nothing cooler than a teenage girl staging a 64 Fairlane against some old coot in a Dodge.

Dale

Man, it was a race car for a lot of years and to todays kids it may be a tank. It's up to my son and granddaughter. I drive it like a dozen times a summer.

HandOverFist 01-04-2015 07:24 PM

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I was beginning to regret messing with this console instead of deleting it, but I believe it's going to work out in the end. I need to fashion a mount for the shifter before bolting the console down permanently.

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psf7b6ba6a.jpg

Once the door panels and sill plates are back on I think it will look pretty decent.

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Geerhead55 01-04-2015 11:09 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
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Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 457310)
Do the Fairlane! I can think of nothing cooler than a teenage girl staging a 64 Fairlane against some old coot in a Dodge.

Dale

Except maybe against one in a SS/GT '68 Mustang!
Danny Durham

FireSale 01-05-2015 11:31 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
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Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 457457)
Except maybe against one in a SS/GT '68 Mustang!
Danny Durham

Editors Note: This is an inside joke, folks.

Very funny, Mr. Durham. I'm going to bracket race it too, you know. See you in the lanes... Let the rivalries begin.;)

Dale

Tony Corley 01-05-2015 07:46 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist (Post 457436)
I was beginning to regret messing with this console instead of deleting it, but I believe it's going to work out in the end. I need to fashion a mount for the shifter before bolting the console down permanently.

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psf7b6ba6a.jpg

Once the door panels and sill plates are back on I think it will look pretty decent.

http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/q...psfe6e2b62.jpg

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Not certain what shifter you are planning to run, but if it is a 1/4 Stick style shifter, Holcomb Motorsports makes a really nice shifter mount that works with the stock console. Here is a link to it. I've used one in 12 different Mustangs, lol. http://shop.holcombmotorsports.com/S...m1plqscsfapp03

HandOverFist 01-05-2015 08:18 PM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
I have a Precision Performance shifter on the way. It will be rear cable exit and mounted where the emergency brake handle used to reside. The factory shifter location would not be comfortable for me...too far forward.

Geerhead55 01-06-2015 12:50 AM

Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 457486)
Editors Note: This is an inside joke, folks.

Very funny, Mr. Durham. I'm going to bracket race it too, you know. See you in the lanes... Let the rivalries begin.;)

Dale

I had to do it,, Dale. To be fair,, neither one of us could enter the "Spring Chicken Nationals",, too many years behind us now. I'm looking forward to seeing you and the Mustang out at Bremerton this year, and perhaps also at the Pacific combo events.
Good luck with your build,,, I'm doing a little updating also,, take care. OK, Rich,, I'm through highjacking your thread, sorry.
Danny Durham


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