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Great news, your making good headway!!

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Anybody who's contemplating getting into the Stocker area and has been reading this thread, hear this:
One thing I now have a whole new appreciation for is that if you're a one-man show building an entry level car like this Olds is in your own stable on your own dime, if you are a typical working stiff like most un-retired people are, it takes a LONG time to get everything done. There are a ton of little things to do if you want these cars to perform in the manner they need to, and doing them takes precious hours at the expense of others. The only thing that can hurry this process up any is cubic dollars and paying someone else to do stuff for you. Some of us simply cannot do that.

I cut a few corners on my AMX build seen on here trying to get it put together good enough to race at the very end of the 2016 season in hopes of gathering some data and more knowledge to march on with in 2017, and now I'm having to go back and re-do stuff because it's not even close to the index yet. The 2017 testing taught me several lessons so I'm probably going to be better off for it in the long run, but it was somewhat painful on the learning curve.

Congrats on the motor firing up and being that much closer to the finish line on this car, Jeff. I remember when my home-freshened 6 banger stocker engine fired up last summer and the satisfaction it created.
We're all behind you! Keep going man...

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Thank you for the push to go forward. I have another drag car and in the last 18 months Ive painted it and rebuilt motor twice from nitrous damage. If I didn't have to take the time and fix Monte I could have had Olds done by now. But I can see the light at the end of tunnel and that will keep me going at a quicker pace. I know I wont have everything right from the start but I would like to think I'm close. My goal for dime rocket was 13.90s making it 9 under in AZ altitude. Thanks for the input

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https://www.facebook.com/jeff.stout....4746540216183/
After 45 minutes of trying get video on imgur I gave up and posted on facebook and copied to here. Had to jet up in front and lean out back of carb. Still some black smoke but allI had was C23 today in shop.Hope video works.

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Very cool post Jeff I really like how you kept track of the build cost. Any up dates ?

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Sorry I don't. When I was in Tucson over new years I was sick and then I felt better mid January. Then the flu really hit and I haven't been in the garage for 2 weeks now. Cant shake the sick feeling.

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Hope you're feeling better.

Any updates?

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After having the flu twice in January and February I had to build from scratch a 565 blower motor for a friend. Installed in his car last week and no problems. Oldsmobile is on the ground and taking care of everything under the hood before dropping motor in. If anyone is reading I need arm off a vega steering box. I thought I had 2 but the spline is the wrong size

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New on EBay $23 free shipping Fed 387

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Wow. Take care of yourself. When I was 18, the flu didn't slow me down much, but at age 55, this last bout knocked the poop out of me- I was flat on my back in bed for three days, and felt like I was gonna die.

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Thank you. I will order Tuesday.

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Sawzall, cut wheel, hammer and a Saturday afternoon and progress

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Some updates as Im getting close
Made alternator bracket out of scrap metal. 84 amp Alternator in car and works. Had large pulley on shelf

Using Ford relay just for junction to connect positive wires to and to use as a remote starter button. Found on shelf

Fuel system missing sample valve, but otherwise done

Front wheels mounted and balanced. Found new steel stems on shelf $20
New brake lines and some fittings $39
Steering arm $43
Double post style battery $45
I had all the braided lines new on shelf with fittings and old regulator from nitrous days. The rest of gauges were from another car that has a data logger and are all wired in. Playback tach and shift light wired.
Total $7933.98

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The office. Ergonomically placed. Wiring all done just need to tidy up

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Getting close!

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Jeff, You've got a coil under that cap??

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Yes, I did a Pertronix ignition.

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I'd get it out of the cap and get an oil filled Blaster or something and mount it where it will stay cooler.

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I do have a MSD Blaster coil on shelf. Is there a conversion to put on cap for coil wire? I don't remember if there is one as its been 30 years since I touched one.

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you will need a MSD 8401 conversion cap--- all it is is a "dust cover " WITH NO COIL
inside and a tower that looks like it has a spark plug on it--- this is how you connect the coil wire from the external coil to the distributor---FED 387

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Actually, a low budget guy might super glue the carbon button in place, tie about an inch of the wire core though the little spring, silicone over the whole mess, and then just drill a hole through the dust cap. No disconnect on that end , but the price is right.
Then, there's always Summit or Jegs.

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Coil heatng up is really a problem? I thought the rpms over 7k was a problem with spark scatter due to stock module not keeping up. The distributor is a cheap billet with pertronics internals.

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Not until you're hot lapping in about the 4th round LOL Been there, done that.
Looked like an HEI to me, hence my comment.
Can't report on the spark scatter. Never used a module on a real Stocker..I have used the HEI pick up to trigger an MSD..Seems to work fine

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My first trans rebuild. I didn't have any pieces left over so I guess its all in there. Tail shaft has .005 free play and input has .005. Used Alto red friction. B&M shift kit. Sonnex large servo. I still need to make case support.

Looking fot aluminum trans pan. Who makes one as I checked and couldn't find one on internet.
Rebuild kit and new servo. $270.00 Total $8203.98

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Looks like you plan on using the TV cable. Assuming the governor too. Did you modify the low over run valve if planning to over-ride the governor, manually?
Also ,did you full feed the direct and increase the line pressure? Maybe h.p. spring came with kit?

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I'm going to try tv cable first. Added spring pressure. Not sure on increasing line pressure. I thought adjusting tv cable make my 1-2 shift where I want it. No?

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TV cable works with governor for low, medium speed shifts. At WOT. TV valve is bottomed out to max. Governor takes over. You'll have to modify governor, which is a p.o.s. , compared to 350/400. At least it's outside the pan,..not like the 200 4R.
You can find much more info on the o.d trans from the GN boys. It is similar in function.

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Sounds like I need to go without tv cable and bottom out plunger and hold it there, then see how to make governor adjustable.

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Then you'll be driving around the pits in low gear all the time.LOL

Probably told you before, but the TA valve body is the way to go. I know, the budget thing and all, but this idea will cost you more in the long run .Testing fees, fried frictions and steels, spilled and lost fluid ,etc.

With all due respect to my other friends that will build v.b.'s , Paul did a bunch of research before releasing his product. Trust me on this,.. all who may be reading here.

Being the cheap s.o.b I am, I could probably build my own now, but without a mill , surfacer and such, it's just not worth it .

Now, just waiting to see how you're going to get that converter on the money with an Ebay buy .. ;-)

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Waiting for a Ebay price from you. I've been watching on classracer for one but haven't seen one yet. I don't have a core to build one.

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Ha...Then of course you'll document it right here, and the the line forms on the right. ;-)

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You have my word I wont disclose price if it helps my cause. Jeff

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Just an update. After 3 weeks of vacation I finally got back to this project. With a lot of help from Mark at Blue Streak Enterprise I took the front half of trans and valve body apart to make some much needed changes so this trans will live.

To my surprise when talking to Mark at Blue Streak Enterprise about a converter on a dime budget he called and said I have a converter from Chin Brothers Racing coming my way from Rhode Island. I'm suppose to try it and if it works just send $300. I was amazed and surprised to say the least that Mark found one and had it sent out to AZ across the entire country. Thanks again for the help and a chance to try a converter on a budget. Jeff

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Any updates, Jeff?

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Spending weekends working on the last little bit. Trying to make Tucson divisional. Brakes bled, new longer studs on front wheels, fixing trans pan leak. Neutral safety switch needed, vent on fuel cell needed, then maybe test to see if trans works and then go down the track. My poor ramp truck needs attention as this car is 4200 lbs. and then try and keep up with Mustang II's

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Sounds like it is heading toward the finish line. 4200 pounds! Yike's!

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Finally have everything together and will make my maiden voyage Saturday night and TNT. I would to have liked to made the Tucson S/SS race but time and cost is allot for making the first pass. I hope I don't look silly and run some 16 second pass

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Good Luck Jeff! Look forward to seeing your car run.