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X-TECH MAN 08-15-2011 05:50 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
The 1965 273/235 HP Darts, Cudas,Valients came with 8 1/4 rears. The 1966 "D" dart came with an 8 3/4 rear. NHRA would NOT allow the Golden Commandos to use the 8 3/4 rear in F/S in their 1965 Cuda in 1965. AHRA did allow it. The Golden Cammandos ran some M/Production in NHRA later in the year so they could use the larger/stronger rear.

Paul Ceasrine 08-15-2011 06:12 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
I don't know Mr. X,,,,,,,,,,,,that looks like a Sure-Grip Posi Rear to me,,:)

http://www.foundationpc.com/brochure/66dartad.jpg

ddartdude 08-15-2011 09:12 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Paul - Quick question. Since the D/Dart would have to race as a SuperStock car today, what class would it be in and what would it have to run?

The reason I am asking is, yesterday I looked at a real D/Dart that was an old race car (mini tubed, SS springs relocated, fuel cell, no inner fenders) and would make a good SS car.
Alan

Hemi Moose 08-15-2011 10:31 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 275472)
The 1965 273/235 HP Darts, Cudas,Valients came with 8 1/4 rears. The 1966 "D" dart came with an 8 3/4 rear. NHRA would NOT allow the Golden Commandos to use the 8 3/4 rear in F/S in their 1965 Cuda in 1965. AHRA did allow it. The Golden Cammandos ran some M/Production in NHRA later in the year so they could use the larger/stronger rear.

X-Tech Man, but I think you meant to say 7 1/4 rear end. ;)

Hemi Moose 08-15-2011 10:35 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Well since this thread is over 2 years old, I was wondering what ever happened to this D-Dart everyone was talking about. Does the owner still have it or has it moved on, and is this the same car or not.
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

Hemi Moose 08-15-2011 10:37 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Is this the same D Dart as pictured above, and that is mentioned in the original post.
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/SC0509...d=050709105629

Hemi Moose 08-15-2011 10:39 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
D Dart -
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/SC0509...d=050709105629

Hemi Moose 08-15-2011 10:42 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
D Dart VIN #
http://www.mecum.com/auctions/SC0509...d=050709105629

ddartdude 08-16-2011 09:07 AM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 275575)
Well since this thread is over 2 years old, I was wondering what ever happened to this D-Dart everyone was talking about. Does the owner still have it or has it moved on, and is this the same car or not.
http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg

The all white D/Dart was my first one. Sold it to a guy in Philly who sold it to the Ellis collection. It was in need of a total restoration when I sold it. I think Ellis finally sold it early this year.

I still own Ted's old car. It's painted candy apple red and white mother of pearl --- lacquer. So it's showing it's age. Only 367 miles on the odo. I'll have to look for a picture of how it looks today.

Came close to buying another one on Sunday, but it was a little too much for what it was. It would have been a good start as a SS project. Any info on what SS class a D/Dart would run today and what times it would have to turn to be competative? I know that the info is on this site somewhere.

Paul Ceasrine 08-16-2011 09:58 AM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Alan,

The D-Dart 273/275 HP still is rated at 275 HP by the 'good ole NHRA'.

In stock class, it would be placed in F/Stock
In Super Stock,,,,,,SS/J.

Really, the only item on this car in Super Stock different than a basic 273/235HP is the Holley carburetor,,,,,

Why not legal for NHRA Stock Class,,,,,,NHRA said, 'only 50 were built'
?????

pc

X-TECH MAN 08-16-2011 10:06 AM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 275574)
X-Tech Man, but I think you meant to say 7 1/4 rear end. ;)

The 273 2 barr. had the really small rear. My friends 273/235 HP 'Cuda had the 8 1/4 rear. We had gotten a 3.91 gear for the 8 3/4 rear to put in it but found out the pumpkin was the same that came in the larger cars with 318's and 361's after we had it all apart. It didnt fit. Had to go back to the dealer and get a new gear to finish sitting it up. The parts guy called it a 8 1/4. The one I think you talk about is the one with a tin back plate like a 10 or 12 bolt chev.????? I think. I remember that type of rear in another friends 273/2 barr Cuda of the same year. Of course that was a very long time ago and before the Army and life messed with my brain.....LOL.

Paul Ceasrine 08-16-2011 11:22 AM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
The Edelbrock Aluminum Dual-Plane Intake manifold that should have been part of the 1966 Dodge D-Dart engine.

Edelbrock Model #LD4B or Dealer Part #283613

http://victorylibrary.com/graphics/LD4B.JPG

Paul Ceasrine 08-16-2011 12:08 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
1966 D-Dart Carburetor

Holley Model #4160,,,,,List #3778
700 CFM
Throttle body sizes;,, 1 11/16' primaries x 1 11/16" secondaries
Venturi diameter;,,,,,,1 5/16" primaries x 1 3/8" secondaries
Vacuum secondaries / Manual choke / Single-feed inlet


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqR,!jI...ZHiw~~0_12.JPG

The Model #4160 has NO secondary metering block.
This carburetor uses a secondary metering plate.

http://www.carbkitsource.com/carbs/i...4160-early.jpg

Hemi Moose 08-18-2011 03:45 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Found a few more old photo's...
http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/76...600x600Q85.jpg

Hemi Moose 08-18-2011 03:47 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
http://inlinethumb31.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg

ddartdude 08-24-2011 09:35 AM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
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This is Ted Spehar's old Politician race car as it is today.

treessavoy 08-24-2011 02:38 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 275651)
The 273 2 barr. had the really small rear. My friends 273/235 HP 'Cuda had the 8 1/4 rear. We had gotten a 3.91 gear for the 8 3/4 rear to put in it but found out the pumpkin was the same that came in the larger cars with 318's and 361's after we had it all apart. It didnt fit. Had to go back to the dealer and get a new gear to finish sitting it up. The parts guy called it a 8 1/4. The one I think you talk about is the one with a tin back plate like a 10 or 12 bolt chev.????? I think. I remember that type of rear in another friends 273/2 barr Cuda of the same year. Of course that was a very long time ago and before the Army and life messed with my brain.....LOL.

The '63-'65 A bodies came with the 7 1/4 rear end no matter what engine or trans although it is thought some of the late '65 235hp cars may have been built with the 8 3/4 that was available for 1966.

JimR

older racer 08-24-2011 07:16 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
in august 17, 1965, W.E. 'farmer" dismuke, NHRA tech director, advises that the 8 3/4 rear axle has been approved for stock class 235/273 valients and darts.

X-TECH MAN 08-24-2011 07:57 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by older racer (Post 277649)
in august 17, 1965, W.E. 'farmer" dismuke, NHRA tech director, advises that the 8 3/4 rear axle has been approved for stock class 235/273 valients and darts.

LOL.....And another 2 weeks after that the 66 models came out with them already installed.

Paul Ceasrine 08-25-2011 11:30 AM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
Mid 1965,,,,,,approval for the 8 3/4",,,,,,,
And available on some later 65' Models.

1965 classes;
1965 Valiant 273/235HP classed in D/SA,,,,,,,
1962 Dodge Wagon 361/305HP also classed in D/SA,,,,
1965 Barracuda 273/235HP classed in F/SA,,,,,

Paul Ceasrine 01-14-2013 11:04 PM

Re: '66 Dodge D-Dart at Mecum auction
 
A 'Blast-from-the-Past'

August 1966 Car Craft Magazine

Test Driver - Charlie Allen

Lions Drag Strip, California

14.33 @ 94.22 MPH..........'out-of-the-box', with no preperation.

Only modifications,
* Cragar S/S Wheels (14" x 6")
* 8.00 x 14" 'Eliminator Prowler' street slicks
* 3" Riser installed on the Pinion Snubber
* Open Headers

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...972/DART-1.jpg


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