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Hemi Moose 03-21-2012 04:55 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Bert, just a note but if you post that photo in the "Chrysler-the early years thread" it covers the '62 thru '65 Mopars..so if you have any questions about it, it might get answered in there.

Dave Wolfe 03-21-2012 05:36 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 316781)
The Cheshire Dodge is posted a few pics back (post #188). I took this picture from a website that showed both of them at the track at the same time(I believe).
Maybe there was more than one that wound up in Pine Bluff, Ark.

It could be I have Ron's car mixed up with another. I talked to Jimmy about his car when he was selling it, then Cecil and I ran into Ron and Harris in La. at an IHRA race and I thought I remember him saying that it was Jimmy's old car. It was along time and many brews ago, so who knows.Thanks for posting the picture, the 65 Dodge a990 is my favorite car of all the HEMI cars.

Dennis P Chapman 03-21-2012 05:47 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 316770)
After the crash and left sitting in a field abandoned & stripped of all it's original parts here's what it looked like after the restoration...it had the wildest looking factory exhaust ever made.

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_059.jpg

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_077.jpg

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_086.jpg

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_093.jpg

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_098.jpg

Anybody have pictures of it before the restoration.

ww63 03-21-2012 05:59 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Wolfe (Post 316800)
It could be I have Ron's car mixed up with another. I talked to Jimmy about his car when he was selling it, then Cecil and I ran into Ron and Harris in La. at an IHRA race and I thought I remember him saying that it was Jimmy's old car. It was along time and many brews ago, so who knows.Thanks for posting the picture, the 65 Dodge a990 is my favorite car of all the HEMI cars.

Dave The old Mastadon looks the same today as when I picked it up. not all these cars need to be or should be restored

Charlie A 03-21-2012 07:35 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman (Post 316802)
Anybody have pictures of it before the restoration.

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_013.jpg

http://www.garlandmotorsports.com/pics/65_011.jpg

Dennis P Chapman 03-21-2012 07:56 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Dam//////////// Thankyou Charlie

Hemi Moose 03-21-2012 08:52 PM

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http://www.ramchargers.com/webreadyp...dgeposter2.jpg

Hemi Moose 03-21-2012 08:57 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Here's a few shots of the '65 Melrose Missile Belvedere hardtop not sedan that was raced in the A/FX class...still without the front & rear wheel modifications done.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...8&d=1278375673

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...6&d=1278375638

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...7&d=1278375638

Geerhead55 03-21-2012 11:28 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Not sure who's driving the Melrose Missle in the bottom picture, but it looks like a young Cecil Yother. I'm not up on the "Missle" story, but when did Tom Grove leave and Cecil came in? What were the circumstances behind the change? Is that around the time Tom switched to the Fords?
I've ran into Cecil a few times in recent years at swap meets up here in the NW, but haven't bothered him for the story as hes always walking around with his wife and I don't want to pester him too badly. Hes been kind enough to autograph some magazines and the Missle die cast I have,, a very nice gentleman.
Anyone know the Melrose Missle history and story?
Danny Durham

Dave Wolfe 03-22-2012 09:36 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ww63 (Post 316806)
Dave The old Mastadon looks the same today as when I picked it up. not all these cars need to be or should be restored

I am sure it's in good hands. I would have kept in touch but the computer I had your info on crashed, and I haven't talked to Jim lately.

storm king 03-22-2012 07:53 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Those are the super rare NASCAR hemi exhaust. I've never actually seen a set other than in factory brochures, and model kits!
They are cool!

Hemi Moose 03-22-2012 11:25 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Geerhead55 (Post 316889)
Not sure who's driving the Melrose Missile in the bottom picture, but it looks like a young Cecil Yother. I'm not up on the "Missle" story, but when did Tom Grove leave and Cecil came in? What were the circumstances behind the change? Is that around the time Tom switched to the Fords?
I've ran into Cecil a few times in recent years at swap meets up here in the NW, but haven't bothered him for the story as hes always walking around with his wife and I don't want to pester him too badly. Hes been kind enough to autograph some magazines and the Missile die cast I have,, a very nice gentleman.
Anyone know the Melrose Missile history and story?
Danny Durham

Danny, here's a quote from a recent Mopar article...

Quote:

Starting one of the busiest days ever in NHRA history, this is Tommy Grove and the A/FX Melrose Missile at the 1965 Winternationals. Rain forced the entire event to be run on Sunday only, with hundreds of qualifying and elimination runs made on that one day. This was one of four two-percent modified cars that Chrysler built for this event alone; they were all converted to full altered wheelbase cars after their appearance here. Grove announced that he was moving to Ford at the end of this day as well, and therefore did not become one of the chosen to help create the funny car legend that year. Cecil Yother became the new driver when the car reappeared on the West Coast later in the spring after its metamorphosis.

Hemi Moose 03-22-2012 11:30 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by storm king (Post 317051)
Those are the super rare NASCAR hemi exhaust. I've never actually seen a set other than in factory brochures, and model kits!
They are cool!

I'm pretty sure all of the factory '65 A990 cars had this exotic exhaust set up, along with the single exhaust muffler when delivered.

Geerhead55 03-22-2012 11:41 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 317084)
Danny, here's a quote from a recent Mopar article...

Thanks for the info,,,HM.
Danny Durham

J Oliverio 03-24-2012 08:44 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
We own 2 65 A990 cars both are Plymouths. Have owned sinse 1079. One was owned by Dave Uhl the other belonged to two NYPD cops. There names were Brocco & Taylor. The car was black w/like a rose color stipe it was bracket raced mostly I think. Do not have a picture as of now. Just wondering if anybody knows anything about this car.

a990hemi 03-29-2012 01:33 PM

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[QUOTE=Paul Ceasrine;303327]The 1965 Record Holder,,,,,,

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...62d69584d18745

...and a little later that season

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...ennerTubbs.jpg

gregwho 03-30-2012 08:48 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 316517)
Nice find Charlie, but I'm wondering if this was a real A990 car to start with according to this statement below...anyone here know for sure.

Absolutly real A990 car! Had all the real goodies and then some, I thought I made that clear, anyway, yes they used to use a complete A990 car as a doner, mostly wireing and trim parts, they left this car very much intacked. All the trick stuff was prety much untouched. Most of the trick A990 parts where too heavy for an A/FX car. Boy seeing that picture sure brought it all back, thanks!
Greg Charney

a990hemi 03-30-2012 11:10 AM

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This absolutely beautiful ivory colored A990 Coronet was originally purchased from Mr Norm's Grand Spaulding dealership and remained in the Appleton / Fondulac, WI area until at least the mid 90s. The original owner was crushed to death by this car while he was installing tubular headers on it and it somehow remained virtually untouched and un-modified throughout time. I do not know who owns this car but I witnessed it being properly raced at Great Lakes Dragaway numerous times in the early 90s and it was a staple feature car in the Chrysler Corporate display tent at many of the mid-90s Mopar Nationals events. Definitely a text book referance example of a factory built Super Stocker.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...UnionGrove.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...990dodge_2.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...990dodge_4.jpg

Hemi Moose 03-30-2012 02:10 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 316484)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregwho (Post 318553)
Absolutly real A990 car! Had all the real goodies and then some, I thought I made that clear, anyway, yes they used to use a complete A990 car as a doner, mostly wireing and trim parts, they left this car very much intacked. All the trick stuff was prety much untouched. Most of the trick A990 parts where too heavy for an A/FX car. Boy seeing that picture sure brought it all back, thanks!
Greg Charney

I must have mistook the comments you said earlier then, when you said that you got a body in white and 4 door parts car for $300 bucks from Mancini who had no use for it and concentrated on his '68 Hemi Dart instead...so it did have the WO stamping at the beginning of the VIN # .

Hemi Moose 03-31-2012 02:27 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 318583)
This absolutely beautiful ivory colored A990 Coronet was originally purchased from Mr Norm's Grand Spaulding dealership and remained in the Appleton / Fondulac, WI area until at least the mid 90s. The original owner was crushed to death by this car while he was installing tubular headers on it and it somehow remained virtually untouched and un-modified throughout time. I do not know who owns this car but I witnessed it being properly raced at Great Lakes Dragaway numerous times in the early 90s and it was a staple feature car in the Chrysler Corporate display tent at many of the mid-90s Mopar Nationals events. Definitely a text book referance example of a factory built Super Stocker.

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...UnionGrove.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...990dodge_2.jpg
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...990dodge_4.jpg

Good story & pic's...where is the car today.

Hemi Moose 03-31-2012 02:33 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Here's a few more oldies of Harry Holten's '65 A990 Belvedere super stocker...

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1329778702

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...8&d=1329778702

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...7&d=1329778702
.
http://hangtenregistry.com/mikespost...Racing/a25.jpg

Dan Bennett 03-31-2012 04:53 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 318818)
Good story & pic's...where is the car today.

Is this the car that Norm Brandes (sp) owned? I saw his at Union Grove in the late 1980s and was absolutely astounded. It was pretty much a brand new A990.

Charlie A 04-02-2012 07:29 AM

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Herb "Mr 4 Speed" a long time ago.

http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/z...PEED-QUART.jpg

Hemi Moose 04-02-2012 05:35 PM

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It looks like Herb taped a rug to the roll cage in the above photo...anyway here's a few more shots of Herb McCandless '65 A990 Belvedere.

http://www.biloxidragway.com/gallery...serialNumber=3

http://www.biloxidragway.com/gallery...serialNumber=3

a990hemi 04-03-2012 12:17 PM

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Not certain who owned this car or if it was a genuine A990 package car or not but odds are good that it was since it has a single headlight grille and Match Race Madness was sudenly big business in 1965.

Anybody know anything about this car?

http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/w...memadeHell.jpg

Jared Jordan 04-04-2012 10:47 PM

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The original "Hemi Countdown." Grandpa (Harry Holton) bought it new from a dealership in Reno, NV in 1965. Bought it back in '91 and raced it until the end of '95. Car is currently owned by Mark Vieira.

These pictures are dated 1/22/66 and were taken at Kingdon Dragway in Lodi, CA.

This is a different car than the one I posted about on pp. 15-16 of this thread.

Jared Jordan 04-04-2012 11:02 PM

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"Hemi Countdown" as I remember it. This picture is from 1992.

I was 10...

Looks like there's a '68 car in the waterbox in the background, but it's not one I recognize.

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 10:31 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 318841)
Is this the car that Norm Brandes (sp) owned? I saw his at Union Grove in the late 1980s and was absolutely astounded. It was pretty much a brand new A990.

I'm not sure if it's the same '65 A990 Coronet, but it's supposed to be unrestored...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...h=154655;image

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 10:40 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 319427)
Not certain who owned this car or if it was a genuine A990 package car or not but odds are good that it was since it has a single headlight grille and Match Race Madness was sudenly big business in 1965. Anybody know anything about this car?

This almost looks like it could be either the old Mr Tomato or The Funny Car A/FX'ers...both front & rear wheelwells were cut very crudely then someone spray-bombed it orange.

a990hemi 04-06-2012 11:33 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 320100)
I'm not sure if it's the same '65 A990 Coronet, but it's supposed to be unrestored...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...h=154655;image

This is undoubtedly the same car ...where is it today? I have some very good video footage of this car in action at Da Grove circa 1991. I'll do my best to post it here. Looking back, it is shocking to know that such a historical time capsule was raced locally on a regular basis back then.

a990hemi 04-06-2012 11:45 AM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 320103)
This almost looks like it could be either the old Mr Tomato or The Funny Car A/FX'ers...both front & rear wheelwells were cut very crudely then someone spray-bombed it orange.

Post Mr Tomato is very probable since the plate on the front bumper crudely reads "Texas Badman" and the Mr Tomato car had very close ties to the "Kansas Badman" Ted Detar back in the day. Notice how far the HEMI has been set back into the firewall and also how the rear 1/4 window posts of been removed for weight savings?

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 12:57 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Some before & after shots of the Mr Tomato A/FX Dodge...so did this one start out as a factory A990 car.

http://samson-power.com/65afx/photogallery/mrtomato.jpg

http://image.automotive.com/f/images...mato_dodge.jpg

http://image.moparmusclemagazine.com...1965_dodge.jpg

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 01:15 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 303937)
Who said that Sox & Martin didn't also have a 65' A-990 S/S Plymouth Belvedere,,,,

This went along with the 65' 2% AWB #2700 lb Hardtop car,,,,

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc...cd2wo1_500.jpg

Here's the S&M '65 A990 Plymouth sedan after the rear wheel base mod's were done...

http://samson-power.com/65afx/photog...X-wheelsup.JPG

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...6&d=1265091242

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 01:33 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by a990hemi (Post 320115)
Post Mr Tomato is very probable since the plate on the front bumper crudely reads "Texas Badman" and the Mr Tomato car had very close ties to the "Kansas Badman" Ted Detar back in the day. Notice how far the HEMI has been set back into the firewall and also how the rear 1/4 window posts of been removed for weight savings?

Notice the remarks you made above and now compare them to this old photo of The Funny Car A/FX Plymouth...but the other car was a Dodge not a Plymouth.

http://samson-power.com/65afx/photogallery/funnycar.jpg

http://samson-power.com/65afx/photog..._8-18-1967.gif

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 01:42 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Bill Flynn's called the Yankee Peddler was another '65 A990 Dodge Coronet that was converted into a A/FX altered wheel base car...shown with cross-ram & injected Hemi.

http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/q...keePeddler.jpg

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...2&d=1283025480

a990hemi 04-06-2012 01:58 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 320131)
Notice the remarks you made above and now compare them to this old photo of The Funny Car A/FX Plymouth...

http://samson-power.com/65afx/photogallery/funnycar.jpg

http://samson-power.com/65afx/photog..._8-18-1967.gif

The red car that I posted a pic of earlier is definitely not a Plymouth since the shape of the rear 1/4 panels gives it away as originally being a Dodge Coronet. Most competitive racers discarded the same body parts in order to save weight and engines were slid closer and closer to the rear for better weight transfer as race season went on.

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 02:15 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Here's some of a '65 Belvedere called "Plymouth A-Go-Go" also with the rear wheels moved forward...don't know if it was a real A990 car though, might be.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...0&d=1264556358

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...2&d=1283026021

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...1&d=1283026021

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...2&d=1290010792

Dan Bennett 04-06-2012 02:34 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 320100)
I'm not sure if it's the same '65 A990 Coronet, but it's supposed to be unrestored...

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/in...h=154655;image

Yes, the car I looked at was absolutely original. It was the first year I was associated with the Musclecar Nationals and was when we decided to branch out from the previous single race at Bowling Green.

Norm showed up with the car at our show at Union Grove and blew us all away. I can't remember the back story of the car, but it raised no flags that he might not be telling the truth about the car. Back then in the late 80s there weren't even that many people who remembered what a A990 was, let alone how to properly restore one.

He had loads of paper work with the car and I remember him showing us how the hood scoop seal panel had been shipped in the trunk. I also remember how impressed I was with the trim. The clear anodizing on the aluminum (like the grille, window trim) was perfect with no clouding of any sort let alone any fine scratches. The car couldn't have seen much stress from the environment.

I had come from the Corvette hobby where I had already learned to appreciate originality. There is no doubt in my mind that I was looking at a completely untampered, unmodified car. I never heard much about the car after that one event but I do remember Norm was from Wisconsin.

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 03:12 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Another '65 A990 Plymouth Belvedere of Pee Wee Wallace called "The Virginian" also had the wheel base conversion done to it...

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...VIRGI10-vi.jpg

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...1&d=1283024704

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...5&d=1283024704

Hemi Moose 04-06-2012 03:25 PM

Re: A990 Super Stockers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 320144)
Yes, the car I looked at was absolutely original. It was the first year I was associated with the Musclecar Nationals and was when we decided to branch out from the previous single race at Bowling Green.

Norm showed up with the car at our show at Union Grove and blew us all away. I can't remember the back story of the car, but it raised no flags that he might not be telling the truth about the car. Back then in the late 80s there weren't even that many people who remembered what a A990 was, let alone how to properly restore one.

He had loads of paper work with the car and I remember him showing us how the hood scoop seal panel had been shipped in the trunk. I also remember how impressed I was with the trim. The clear anodizing on the aluminum (like the grille, window trim) was perfect with no clouding of any sort let alone any fine scratches. The car couldn't have seen much stress from the environment.

I had come from the Corvette hobby where I had already learned to appreciate originality. There is no doubt in my mind that I was looking at a completely untampered, unmodified car. I never heard much about the car after that one event but I do remember Norm was from Wisconsin.

Dan, that was a good story...must have been something to see that car close up...I think it's been for sale a couple of times since then but unsure who currently owns it.


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