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GTOMayhem 03-21-2019 06:04 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Good Luck Jeff! Can't wait to hear the report.



Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

nickh 03-22-2019 08:55 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Jeff,
Also looking forward to your passes, this has been a fun build to follow.

George W 03-22-2019 02:02 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Jeff good luck ,looking forward to how it went this weekend

Jeff Stout 03-24-2019 11:21 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Tried posting pictures from phone using imgur and couldn't get to work. So he goes
1st pass shifter not adjusted right and couldn't find 2cd. But ran it through at 15.36 at 86.3 with AFR at 11.7. Couldn't get shifter to adjust so i felt for it on second pass. Changed secondary rods from. 048 to .055 with a O hanger.


2cd pass 14.72 at 88.6 with 12.1AFR in high gear. Shifting somewhere around 6800rpm.

1.88 60 ft. Leaving at 2200 rpm

Adjusted DA 2300

3rd pass battery was dead in staging lane and I was done as the were around 300 cars and it was midnight and no time to charge.

I was able to get car 25 lb. Over minimum. 4330 total weight.

Things to do, tighten belt on alternator.
Add second battery. Need weight anyway.
More tuning and spark plug reading. My goal was 14 flat and I know I can get there.

Finish line rpm was 7000. Using Wallace calculator it showed 13% slip so I need to address that.

Jeff Stout 03-24-2019 11:23 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
It was actually fun driving a loud slow car. The young kids have me silly looks. Some questioned and understood. For a station wagon it got allot of pictures.

HP HUNTER 03-24-2019 11:55 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 585678)
It was actually fun driving a loud slow car. The young kids have me silly looks. Some questioned and understood. For a station wagon it got allot of pictures.

Actually thats a good starting point, nice work!

Jeff Stout 03-24-2019 02:41 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Lets see if this works
https://i.imgur.com/uzJMsg4.jpg

Jeff Stout 03-24-2019 02:43 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Tried to make smaller
https://i.imgur.com/SbIPLVG.jpg?2

Mark Yacavone 03-25-2019 12:48 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Good start, Jeff
Probably need a better baseline before you change anything major.
Max out the timing and carb and the mph will come up some.
I'm not surprised the converter would be a bit loose with that much weight.
Might have to pull the fin angle back towards neutral (straight up)
Better get back on it soon. April's almost here and the first 100 deg. day.

Jeff Stout 03-25-2019 11:46 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
https://i.imgur.com/yH7WOhY.jpg

HP HUNTER 03-26-2019 08:26 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Best low buck build yet...........IMO

Mark Yacavone 03-26-2019 12:58 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HP HUNTER (Post 585811)
Best low buck build yet...........IMO

I would tend to agree.
This proves that you don't need to buy a big block bullet from a well known builder for a 10 second car, to go racing in Stock with NHRA.

Charlie A 03-26-2019 07:59 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 585795)

Longroofs rule cool!

Fix the passenger side headlight and it will be faster.

Mark Yacavone 03-26-2019 10:29 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A (Post 585844)
Longroofs rule cool!

Fix the passenger side headlight and it will be faster.

Looks like he needed the high beam switch to get anything at all ;-)

Jeff Stout 03-27-2019 12:40 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 585858)
Looks like he needed the high beam switch to get anything at all ;-)

I did only have 1 headlight hooked up. Reason being 1 battery, large alternator pulley and a loose belt. Tried saving electric but still had a dead battery. Working on second battery as I need weight anyway.

Jeff Stout 04-04-2019 07:50 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Some updates.Found a good transmission pan for $80 from Intergity. Bought a recon battery, cables and master switch for $120 total. Found 150lb. of weight at local auction for $19.00 New total of $8422.00

I will be going out to test Friday night. I think with 3 or 4 passes I can be 14.50. @ 4330lb. Thats 25lb over minimum. I will post Saturday the results.

Jeff Stout 04-06-2019 11:53 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Some more tuning last night and I reached my goal of 14.50. Jetting and shift points are what I worked on. I final have been way to lean and way to rich. Still shifting 1-2 late but 2-3 at 6400 looks pretty good. I have saved the run on the play back tach and will see if I can record on phone and transfer to here and see what you guys think. One thing is the motor does not like synthetic oil. I swapped out the plain old 10/40 for some synthetic 10/30 and it smoked all the way down the track. Not bad but I can see the small cloud in my mirror. Moved weight from behind rearend to just in front in hopes to get car to drive forward more but it didn't show anything in 60ft. Air was at 2700 and ran .2 quicker then 2 weeks ago when air was at 2200. The gains were pretty good, but still need .5 to reach my end goal

https://i.imgur.com/oDhGShc.jpg

gsa612 04-06-2019 12:28 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
I assume your running radials,how much air are you running?.You should be able to go pretty high on that car and maybe pick up a few ticks. gsa612

Jeff Stout 04-06-2019 05:50 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Old set of bias ply. At 20 lb cold

Nmbr1GMfan 04-06-2019 06:11 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 586373)
Old set of bias ply. At 20 lb cold

Def switch to radials.

gsa612 04-06-2019 06:29 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 586373)
Old set of bias ply. At 20 lb cold

Try to get a pair of used radials,start at 25 lbs if it hooks add more. There's your tenth maybe more.Good bang for the buck!. gsa612

Rick Kolber 04-06-2019 09:50 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Jeff, You have a PM.

mopacltd 07-04-2019 03:34 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Any updates, Jeff?

Jeff Stout 07-05-2019 10:06 AM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Heat in Az.has stopped me. 14.51 best so far by just jetting richer. Going to tighten converter as it is way loose. Then a couple different collectors to try. I still think 14 flat can be made in decent air.

Jeff Stout 10-06-2019 10:01 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Finally went testing before div 7 race next week. With the converter having 11% slip I tried the john deere hydraulic fluid in transmission. Sure enough it worked. I reduced finish line rpm by 300. By having less slip and running my weather station stats from the spring testing I gained .06 in ET. Even though it's not enough lock you in high gear it will get me by for next weekend.

Jeff Stout 01-14-2020 12:47 PM

Re: My 88 Olds wagone U/SA 10 Pennies
 
Little update of work performed. Changed from a 6.14 gear to a 5.57. Hoping to use motor torque to accelerate car. Front end alignment. Front end had severe toe in. Took front GM brake calipers off and freed up movement in hopes to keep pads away from rotor. They had allot of drag before, now they barely touch rotor when spun. Moved some weight to the back as I moved some to the middle of car and 60ft slowed. Installed cool fuel can. Installed fuel pressure gauge and found out I had been running 7lb of fuel and was wondering why car had a blubber to it. Had a cheap gauge mounted right at regulator and was reading wrong. Racing team race this Sunday and see if anything helped.


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