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Sir,

What master cylinder (part number, type and pushrod) did you use to replace the factory cast iron master cylinder?

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http://www.jegs.com/i/Strange+Engine...360TA/10002/-1

http://www.jerrybickel.com/brake-kit...-jbrc1064.html

A combination of Bickel's piece, theaded stud and threaded hex coupler. 4-piston Aerospace front and rear w/2# residual valve in the rear line.

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Had this almost happen to me too about a year ago. I was turning my drive shaft by hand. When it locked up on me. Which made my heart skip a beat. Opened the rear cover. And low and behold. Three teeth stripped off the ring. After only 20 passes. So im looking a little closer at the ring. And realize that its a "street gear" What the hell! This is a full race rear end. 40 spline axles, 5/8 studs, race brakes. The whole nine yards. So i gave them a call. And they just turned it back on me. "Well we really dont know what transpired when i ordered it". Are you kidding me. So anyway, the point to my quote. When i took the rear to have the new "RACE GEARS" installed. I noticed the same distortion happening to my perches. I just staightened them. And boxed them just like you did. Ive put another 50 passes on them without any problems. And i hit it them pretty hard. Im running a D/S 66 chevy II. If i get really motivated next winter. I might replace them with Caltracs. Moser's equipment is slightly cheaper. But they have a few screws loose working there.

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Gawd! I really hated seeing those pictures again...:p

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For your info, this thread motivated me to spend the extra money and put an all Strange Engineering rear end setup under my 68 Mustang.

Dale

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I would enjoy seeing that Dale.

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It's about three weeks out. Just got the order completed Friday. I'll send some pics when it's in.

Dale

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Thank you Sir for the information on the master cylinder!

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More than welcome Lanny. Btw, when I mentioned a hex nut I should have said a threaded hex coupler to be more precise. ;)

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Viking DA shocks installed...I'll let you know how they fare.

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Good luck, Rich,,,, you're way overdue!
Danny Durham

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Not much going on lately. I decided I am going to attend the Holley Hot Rod Reunion at Beech Bend this weekend...looking forward to it as I have never been to one. Taking the car and will enter it in the Modified Eliminator class at 11.00 or 11.50 index depending on how it performs.

We did not get our quadrajets back yet so I pulled the intake/carb of the '66 Nova and put it on the Camaro. The intake is an aluminum unit supposedly off a 365hp Corvette while the carb is a BG 750 Demon. I'll run it out the back door first qualifying pass then pick the appropriate index. I intend on just relaxing and having fun Thursday thru Saturday...will try to post some pictures of the festivities each evening if I have access to some WiFi.

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Interested to hear your results... hope you have a great weekend behind the wheel...

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I've been using TRRC for my rearends, moly tubes, excellent work, same money as Moser.

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Been a long slog the past two days with withering heat/humidity on Thursday and rain Friday morning here at the Hot Rod Reunion. I continue to battle this car even with the Holley carb installed. There is a nagging bog that I have not been able to tune out with larger squirters. My partner called this evening before we left the track with an idea that sounds right on track...says the secondary is opening to soon. There are so many adjustments on this Demon carb there ought to be a law against it lol!

My first time at one of these events and I'm really enjoying it so far minus the car problems...I'll be back again next year for sure. Been so wrapped up trying to figure out this car I have not taken many pictures. There are so many immaculate race cars here it makes me want to hide my junk haha! I did snap a couple of this beautiful Corvette in staging tho...

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I'll try to post some more sometime Saturday evening.

I'm running Modified Eliminator in D/M (11.50 index) and currently positioned well in 13th spot on a ladder with about 50 cars. My best qualifying pass was a 11.557. I took out a bracket from the trunk that was used to attach the ballast weight before first round late this afternoon, but it was only 23 pounds. The only other weight I could take out of the car would be the passenger seat hehe...hopefully with the carb tweak that won't be necessary tomorrow for second round.

Yeah, I managed to win first round, but it wasnt pretty. My opponent was the #3 qualifier running C/M (11.00 index) and I knew he was going to run his number. I was .019 on the tree on my last qualifying pass and told myself not to throw it away on a redlight...no problem lol. The car launched harder than it had the past two days,but I knew I saw way too much yellow as soon as I left. This was about 6:30 in the evening and we were looking directly at the sun and the tree...I could barely see to stage. To seal the deal when I shifted to second gear the rpm's went sky high like I had pushed in a clutch. I slapped the shifter again quickly, but I knew it was over at that point. As I went across the finish line I glanced at the light on the wall and thought I saw green, but the sun was just glaring and didnt give it a thought. When handed my ticket at the booth I saw the win arrow and shouted to the official "no freakin way!" The C/M car had went red -.113 to my .094 light...the real stab was he had run nearly dead on his index at 11.008. I almost felt like I had cheated him. I guess a win is a win, but geez that was nasty. Anyhow, I'll try to do better in the morning. Off to bed for this old fart...:o

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I was under the impression that to use Caltrac split mono leafs you needed to use spring sliders since the rear eye is a Mopar style. Did you just use a different bushing?

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No - It's designed to work with stock parts. No special bushings needed.

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Just got home from the Reunion and I'm completely cooked and beat. I'm hooked tho and I'll be back for more next year. :)

Ran second round early this morning and lost a squeaker. Disappointed, but not ashamed of my effort...made a good clean pass. It was very fast early on and most runs were double breakouts. I stabbed the brakes hard but not soon enough...

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My opponent and I had a good laugh after the run about the peddle fest...at least I lost to another Chevy. His car...

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We had a few track mishaps this weekend. A Gasser hit the wall Friday and sheared his front-end off. Another Gasser took a tumble after the finish line today and ended up on it's side. Both drivers were ok, but it was a shame to see such art damaged.

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There was also an accident on the return road Friday afternoon involving a RatRod and a young lady on a 4-wheeler. I think she is alright...they took her to the hospital as a precaution.

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From my experiences this weekend I tend to think the 4-wheeler was probably more to blame for the incident. They really need to re-think their policies regarding pit vehicles for these events. It was a madhouse every day with golf carts, 4-wheelers, humarounds and kids on bicycles flooding the return road and staging area. One could barely get to staging when called or back to the pits after a run. There appeared to be no speeding involved in the accident, but I question the need for non-race vehicles to be traveling the wrong direction on a return road in the first place...this happened just past the exit from the scales. The pedestrians were just as bad at times...like threading a needle just to get your car to staging or return to your pit space. Hell, a kid almost walked into my trailer as I was leaving the track this evening...luckily I had one eye on the mirror and was able to brake quickly.

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Anyway, here are some photo's as promised.

Thomas Arnett's bad to the bone A/SA Camaro...

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The "Swamp Rat"...

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No idea what this is, but it would burn the tires off all the way to the 1000' mark...

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I could not resist this beauty...

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Some random snap happy shots...

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Here is what I had to contend with all weekend. :rolleyes: Will be glad to get the Q-jet and intake back on the car. Had I managed to go more rounds I bet they would have started looking for a throttle stop lol.

http://youtu.be/Iik_n8iY-m8

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Awesome, thanks!

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Stock Eliminator racer Perry Simpkins managed four rounds in HR class eliminations despite carb woes.

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The little red vette roadster is my buddy Chad Fergen. He made the trek all the way from Brookings SD for the event. Managed to make it to the semi's in his class. Chad is an all around cool guy. By the way he hauled that there on his little open trailer. Plus it's seen regular street action over the years. That event is on my bucket list for sure. Lots of cool cars.

Rick

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Yes, it was a fine looking piece for sure. I'll be back next year myself.

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It had been fifteen years since I last been to US 43 Raceway, formerly owned by Jim Butler. My only goal tonight was to get one of the Q-jets tuned to run decently...the hell commenced as soon as I unloaded the car lol. Neither of my two carbs would make a clean pass down the track...I was just about to the point of heaving them into the treeline. :mad:

5 minutes before first round I tore one of them completely down leaning the primary jets, stiffening the air door spring, taping the secondary rod slots on the gasket and installed CV rods on a K hanger. It made a clean pass, but the car was a real dog all night. Ended up going 8 rounds losing in the final. One of these days I will own a good Q-jet haha...:p

https://www.facebook.com/US43Dragway

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There was a nasty nitro Fuel Altered on premises this evening...

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Rich, it looks like the mechanical gremlins are a thing of the past. If you could get a 'known good' QJet to try, that would answer a lot of questions.

Good job on getting to the finals! :) -Al

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Thanks Alan - It's still a mystery how the car could 60' a 1.45 at one time and we have never been able to get it back near that point. :confused:

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Congrats on goin' 8 rounds! thats great!...yea, that is weird... 1.45s early in the year, and slowing down that much... find a known working qjet, and see what happens... i hope its not an internal deal, like a cam , or something... Your mph has fallen off a bit, too, as well, correct?

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what primaries, and what do the CV rods measure? are they like .052? I cant remember... i run 65 primaries, DA (.044) secondaries on K hanger... my flap is pretty loose and choke pulloff is about 1 second, and its adjustable... you need to contact Cliff Ruggles at Cliff's High Perfomance in Mt Vernon OHIO...
he sells adjustable pulloffs, and the best parts you can hope to find...and he is a master tuner... Call him, buy a few good acc pumps, an adjustable choke pulloff and anything else you might need...he will be glad to help you with some expert advice... He has been a huge help to my qjet adventure... Helped me get 1.44 60fts and 10,80s from a tired old 455 bracket engine... Cliff @ 740-397-2921 Mornings are best to get ahold of him, in my experience.

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I've been on the site Brent, but have never seen those adjustable pull-off's you speak of. I would gladly try them. :)

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Give him a call... i have 4 of them...hehe Tell him Brent sent you... i dont discounts or anything, just want him to know that im spreadin the word...

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Unfortunately you've changed a lot of things since the rear end decided to go strait up, I have to ask, does the converter feel the same as it did before the rear end broke? How about drive shaft angles, it probably doesn't take much to lose your combination.

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You are correct...I'm learning that all the stars must be aligned for one of these cars to perform as intended. I've put the car back to it's previous state as far as I can remember. All angles are still the same and the convertor was cut open/inspected. There was a slight tweak to get a little more stall, but I can't tell any difference in the way it feels. I have yet to change the way I stage/stall the car. I'm beginning to suspect that those carbs were running very rich all along and coupled with good cool air earlier in the year was the reason for the good 60' times then. I guess the summer air was a death blow for the way these carbs are set up. I have one unmolested Edelbrock Q-jet I'm working on atm and will try to set it up very lean for this summer heat.

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Who cut the converter? Difference in Baro and DA from Spring air to current air? What temp do you leave at? When you changed the drive shaft was there a weight difference? Always weigh every thing in the drive line, I can only imagine how critical that would be in a setup like yours.

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It's an ATI convertor, but was cut by PTC due to time constraints...there was nothing found askew. I know the weather conditions will have a great effect, but even in good air and track prep we saw a loss of launch performance and it has never improved to date...seems to be stuck in the 1.52 range. We did notice some tire slippage running 18psi and I recently went up to 20psi...did'nt seem to have any effect on the 60' times. As for the driveshaft I don't think there is a great difference in weight between the two.

Here's a for instance time slip. This was in pretty good conditions and before the carbs were worked on...despite the poor launch the car goes faster than it ever has before at every other point on the track. I remember these passes because the car felt like it was just driving off instead of hitting the tires hard and snapping the front-end up. If I can figure out whats going on I believe it will run 11.20's in decent air. This pass the car had the same Calvert SA shocks that it wore when it went 1.45 - 1.47 60' times...it now has DA shocks on the rear, but I'm not working the back hard enough for them to have any effect atm.

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I believe the converter is a problem, as you know the converter is everything, ATI is king when it comes to duplication in my opinion, other companies not so much. I believe a clearance was possibly altered when the converter was cut open, as you said it never hit the tires the same again. You should have several ATI converters and test non stop. I always weigh my converters before the trans fluid.

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You misunderstood me...the time slip above and many like it were with the ATI convertor before it was cut open and inspected/altered. This past Saturday night was the first time the car had been run with the altered ATI convertor. I could tell no difference in the way the car reacted and I'm sure the tweak was a minor one. The only reason it was sent off to be cut/inspected was to confirm if we had a convertor problem or not. It was my partners idea to have them tweak it while open...not something I personally would have done. Anyway, I'm working on another Q-jet right now which will run much leaner than the previous carbs. It will have an experimental accell. pump mod that I will describe later if it proves beneficial.

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I make my choke pull-off adjustable by different orifice sizes drilled in a piece of round plastic (.011" to .019") inserted in 5 different hoses that slow the opening from 1 sec to 2 1/2 sec. Simple, easy, and cheap. Ron.

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I'm experimenting with accell pumps atm. Thinking cutting coils and/or using lighter duration springs will extend the duration of the fuel shot...any thoughts?

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I took the experiment one step further this evening. I used the thinner/lighter return spring that is normally used under the pump rod as a duration spring. This should have a dramatic effect over the stock set-up. When this one goes together it will have 66 jets in the primary (no rods) and AY rods (567 Long) in the back...track time will tell the tale. Btw, the pump bore has been machined to the larger .730 size of the 2G carbs...probably not needed, but I wanted to play.

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