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The Judge was supposed to rule on the sale October 1. I can't find anything that says what the ruling was. The alleged purchasers said they would open next year.

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Hey Marty, that Malibu is looking pretty good for DF/S next year. It may be time to repo it.

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https://www.facebook.com/ckiwradio76...35133651738531
Some info here. The track has been sold. Judge has approved the sale. I haven't seen anything about closing.

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Another season comes to an end with the S/SS race at M/D. I was a 1st rd victim of a trip-zip light (and a FFFord of all things) but the car ran well (15.20s in DF/S).
Winter plans involve getting some kind of a torque converter built and maybe "playing" with a cylinder head. I have another complete car with a good working engine and transaxle (car's bad) that I might take apart and play with or I might just try and find a Malibu to run in the new DF/S depending what the index winds up being.

Early in this build I was raving about how easy this combo is/was to build and how I would recommend it to anyone wanting to go Stock Eliminator racing on a strict budget. My thoughts on this haven't changed. I would also like to add that for a small-engined, low HP car it is incredibly consistant!

Hopefully, I'll see you all in the spring!

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With the 2022 season coming up and "Not for Nuthin'" becoming a one-class car I decided to treat it to a "little something" that will hopefully get it into the 14s.
CF/S (at D wt.) here we come!

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Well, I had a "Frankenstein" torque converter built for the Cavalier. I didn't want to go for a "full race" converter because I want to be able to hook this thing up. I reached out to a converter rebuilder that I've done business with before (with good results) and he mixed-and-matched a pump, cover and a modified stator from different stock applications that should be good for "at least" 600-800 more stall speed than I have with my "turbo Sunbird" converter. If this all works out as planned, I should have about a 3400-3500 stall speed which should pick the Cav up a bunch and still let me hook it up.

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I got the new converter in the car, went to Atco and wasn't too happy with it UNTIL I got home and started looking back at my records and realized that I had forgotten that I added 220 lbs. to the car. I'm happy now! Oh, with the car. The driver should be flogged!

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Good morning Billy,
We'll let the floggings begin.
Can we call you bad names as well?
All kidding aside, factoring in the weight that you added did the car pick up?
We can all be accused of such crimes, mostly just being human.
Have a good day and keep thrashing Bill, I'll give you shout towards the middle of the week.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

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On a slightly unrelated but also quite related topic, there seems to be a bit of a competition emerging. All of last year Billy and I had been neck and neck for qualifying positions at each race we went to. After qualifying above me this past weekend at Atco, we both have some things we are going to try to make each of our cars faster before the next race at Cecil County in May. Here's the riveting saga emerging. Can an 18 year old engineering student with a recently self-rebuilt 6 cylinder nova outqualify a well seasoned racer in a junkyard fresh, clapped out, turd brown cavalier?(or vise-versa). Only time will tell....

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Youth and vigor will always lose to old age and treachery!

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I don't know Billy, but can tell he definitely needs one of these shirts.

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You're lucky I'm staying in U/SA for the time being. As you very well know the nova is a much better runner against the V/SA index. But I'll keep things fair and leave my extra 280lbs of lead at home for now. ;)

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I only have time for a quick update (VERY busy).
The converter definitely helped pick the car up everywhere but mainly in the 60-330 ft. area but it looks like it picked up .10-.15 overall. The MPH seems down but it was pretty windy at Atco.

My biggest surprise of the week came at "The Beav" on Sunday! First of all. the car slowed down a half of a second ( .2 being weather and the rest being "The Beav"!).
Last year at Numidia, I mixed-and-matched camshafts and found the "re-ground" cams to be the overall fastest even though they did hurt the car in the first half of the run. When I installed the re-ground cams for the last time, I "flopped" (not my word but an apt description!) both cams into an advanced position and raced the car for the duration. At "The Beav" I took the time to "flop" the exhaust cam into a retarded position and was rewarded with runs that were .12 and .16 faster!
Good day!

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Cecil County Update!
I replaced the Driver with a Trained Monkey after consistent floggings didn't change the Drivers demeanor. The Monkey needs work.
It wasn't the usual C.C. weather by a long shot! More like Numidia in July.
The car still continues to surprise me with it's consistency. Once I (I mean the Monkey)"found" my starting-line RPM with the new converter, I was .022 on my last T&T run and .005, .007 and .020 on my two Q runs and 1ST RD.. The car runs whatever it is supposed to run give-or-take a couple of hundredths. It ran the fastest ETs it ever did at this weight and on a not-good weather day (15.023 15.60 index). With this combo in the car it should have gone 14.80s at Atco. We'll find out at M.G. this coming week.

Back to the Monkey, I put a 15.09 on the car pretty-much assuming that it would go an 09 or a 10 against a AA/SA dial of a 9.88. The Monkey had the tree and decided to dump said AA/SA car in the lights and gave up the win light by .0025 killing .02 and 3 MPH. .577 under in over 3000 ft. of air!
Good junk.
Bad Monkey!

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Yep..Sounds like me at the last Combo race. I was racing a 10.0 S/S car in the semi's and decided, from the looks of things, to give it up .Turns out I had 4 hun to work with, but then ended up way over the dial.
Last time I did this a 10.7 Stocker was rare. Now, 9 sec. cars are everywhere.
So now I've decided, if I can't tell who's getting there first....keep it welded to the floor and hope the car knows what to do.

Glad to hear it wasn't the car's fault LOL
I see the 60' s are coming around :-)

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I finally got my "tuner" to give me some time out of his busy schedule to go T&Ting Saturday.
We haven't done any tuning since the middle of last year and I've changed fuels and moved the cams since then. It was easy back in the old-days when I could just grab my timing light and carb box and have at it but my "tuner" won't let me near the laptop or even look over his shoulder while he's using it for that matter.
At any rate, it turned out to be a very good day and by changing fuel and timing (taking out both) and the "timing" of the 1-2 shift we managed to find a solid tenth! And .03 of it was in 60'! Not bad for a 95*/ 3400 ft. d.a. day at "The Beav".

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This thread makes me want to revive my 94 Grand Am that last ran in C/FS back in 2006. Bought the car new and drove it several years, then converted it into a race car. Built headers for the 3.1l V6, had a cam made and trans reworked, even researched and found the loosest OEM converter for it and rewired the 4T60E trans wiring to control shifting. The one problem I couldn't get past was it's an OBD1.5 car and there were no options to modify the PCM that I could figure out, so it was running OEM tune and 5500 fuel cutoff that held it back. It ran .050 under most of the time before I started racing something else and parked it. After 5 years sitting, put it back on the street for my daughter to drive when she was 16. Parked it again when she got done, and it's been sitting 3 years. Might be time to put it back on the track.

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OBD1 can be a problem. I played with some mid-80s Sunbirds some years ago. I could get them to go fast but not consistently.
I would be looking for an older aftermarket unit that some Racer has sitting on a shelf.

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Any updates on this project?

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Nothing new to report. I've just been locally bracket racing the car. Besides being a fine little Stocker, it's a very good bracket car. The driver still needs some work though.

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How long does it take to "fix" a driver?!? Seems you've been working on that for half a century!

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What year was it that Billy Nees was the Land of NED Stock Eliminator Champion?

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Is it too early to nominate Billy for the NED Image of Youth award? An oxymoron perhaps?

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The answer is;
Super Street 1985
Stock 1993

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I couldn't remember that!

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I'd like to see you drive Yo Ken's Fffffford!

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That Stock story is worth re-telling for the less than seasoned citizens here ;-)

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I just got finished reading Larry's latest post on Dumbo and all I can say pal is "it's that time of the year".

Here in the Northeast we're running out of tracks to run on. Island has a "Mopar" race, MG has a Truck race, M-D has the SBRA Bracket finals and Numidia is having a couple of High $$$ Races. The only place for me to go this weekend was Cecil Co. and after my 3+ hour ride, I was greeted with a mob scene. To add insult to injury, I forgot to bring the cable to adapt the laptop to the car. Wasted day...........I hate wasting days.
At any rate, I sat in the staging lanes from about 9:00 until almost 2:00 for ONE run and couldn't even make any adjustments to the car. After talking to my "Tuner" I decided to just try and make one FAST run to see if it would. I got the trans good and hot and the engine as cold as I could get it and staged the car as high on the converter as I comfortably could ( about 2800 vs. 2400).
to get to the point of this story, sometimes even the worst days can turn out pretty good! With a 1300' DA. and a 10-15 MPH HEAD wind, Not Fer Nuthin' went a 14.777@ 91.27 MPH! The best until then was a 15.003.
That kinda made my day! .823 under with junk!

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Great.
I'm going to forward you all my Ecotech calls...

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Island ran all make T&T yesterday! They had more T&T cars than they did Mopars actually. Could have made at least 5-6 runs.

Nice run though Billy! Just miserable that you had to wait all day for it.

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Billy and I both screwed up in different ways this weekend lol. Him forgetting to bring the obd2 connector for the car, and me deciding where to go this weekend. If it wasn't for the fact I wanted to play with a recent street car purchase of mine, I would've chose to go to island. But, we both got time slips we were very pleased with, so no big loss.

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Billy,
I hope you had your Hans Device on. That's pretty quick bro.

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Does my diaper count?

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It Depends :eek:

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Throughout this entire now 2 year long build, there's one thing that this car has been missing. Even though the thread is called "Not for Nuthin'...", that didn't quite fit the car as a name. After some deep thought, Billy seems to have come up with a quite clever identity for the little brown car that could. I was asked to post pictures, so here it is, "Brilliant Disguise"

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It may be slow, but it sure is ugly!

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It is now a year later, Billy...Do you still have that car? (I have a slew of things you need to attempt, and a ton of questions), let's get together via telephone ok?

Send me a PM please.

Gary.

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Check the Dutch Classic results..last weekend!

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Thank you Mark. I'll get with you Billy, eventually.

Each slow roller is different of course, but sometimes if they are working properly, you may want them to learn if they are an efi car. But, you seem to have hit on the right points so far. Getting 1 to run a half second plus under and consistently is more than half the battle.

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do you know if billy changed the transmission of the gears to get a lower 1st gear