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Bill Diehl 12-28-2015 01:29 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave Noll (Post 491547)
Any idea on the price for the new block ? I've been looking @ Aussie blocks for a second, better, engine. A guy down the road sells them.
$3250- $3750

Siamese bore, splayed caps,1 piece rear seal, cast and machined in the USA capable of 4.200 bore. a CGI version will be available at a later date. aluminum will be available first, then cast, then cgi. no price on the alum or cgi yet

the cast iron version has NHRA approval

hutt1 12-28-2015 10:42 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
Bill try here for the block.. We are looking at one for a ss car we have..
http://www.tascaparts.com/engine-blo...qNdRoCh6_w_wcB

Scott

FireSale 12-28-2015 11:52 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hutt1 (Post 491571)
Bill try here for the block.. We are looking at one for a ss car we have..
http://www.tascaparts.com/engine-blo...qNdRoCh6_w_wcB

Scott
That's a Windsor block and he needs a Cleveland. I don't really know the difference with the block. The M-6010 series of BOSS blocks are readily available as accepted replacements. I have the BOSS 302 block in my Mustang.

Dale

Bill Diehl 12-28-2015 12:28 PM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
That is correct Dale, the Cleveland blocks that are nhra approved will be available in a few months. When they are cast and machined they will be added to the accepted products list

hutt1 12-29-2015 10:47 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
the ss guys are running the Windsor stuff so I figured the stocker guys could also.. My bad

Mike Taylor 3601 12-29-2015 10:55 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Diehl (Post 491473)
valve angles are within the 1* allowed, they are exactly what you have printed in bold above "stock" as ford machined them...as you should know... castings very from batch to batch, that's why it "looks" like they have been changed when in fact they have not, which is why I have said...these are the best set yet. The rules do say you are allowed to clearance the pushrod holes.

as far as the lifter angles..... I have gotten a dif answer as you have depending upon who you talk to. I have not crossed that bridge yet..

In honesty...I feel that if the razor blades for rings and gas ported spacer are legal, they are not spelled out as ya or ney in the book, but everybody uses them (the most expensive rings in all racing I might ad) I don't see what the problem would be with correcting the lifter angles as they are still .875 dia.

Bill
Bill,
I recommend for you to save your money on the rings and give Greg @ Tri City a call for a set of rings that WILL work and cost 1/3 of what you are talking about.
Mike Taylor 3601

FireSale 12-29-2015 01:10 PM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hutt1 (Post 491650)
the ss guys are running the Windsor stuff so I figured the stocker guys could also.. My bad
The Windsor engines were built from 1961to 2000 and the Cleveland family from 1970 to 1982. Both families had 351 cid engines. The Cleveland got the good cylinder heads and the Windsor got the stronger block. Some folks have reworked the water passages to fit Cleveland heads on Windsor blocks but NHRA says NO! That's why these guys are so interested in opening their wallets for aftermarket approved 351C blocks.

The currently available Ford Racing BOSS 351 is a Windsor. You could run it in SuperStock but not Stock.

Dale

Mike Taylor 3601 12-29-2015 07:59 PM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireSale (Post 491659)
The Windsor engines were built from 1961to 2000 and the Cleveland family from 1970 to 1982. Both families had 351 cid engines. The Cleveland got the good cylinder heads and the Windsor got the stronger block. Some folks have reworked the water passages to fit Cleveland heads on Windsor blocks but NHRA says NO! That's why these guys are so interested in opening their wallets for aftermarket approved 351C blocks.

The currently available Ford Racing BOSS 351 is a Windsor. You could run it in SuperStock but not Stock.

Dale
about .300'' taller deck and .250'' larger main aren't direction you want to go on stock/super stock besides being illegal,if building 427 windsor, then taller deck and larger main works well.
Mike Taylor 3601

rawhide 12-30-2015 12:23 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
The current Windsor Boss 351 blocks are available in both 9.2" and 9.5" decks. They also have the Cleveland main size.
Roland

hutt1 12-30-2015 10:02 AM
Re: Boss Mustang stocker
 
They even have a 9.200 dh with 302 mains.. They are harder to find but available... Talked to the guys at ford the other day..

In the early 90,s when we ran the 351 C in GT/B we had a lot of issues when they really started making power. We went 9.30 at almost 148+ in 1994 with this combo with a G force trans that had to be clutched on all shifts.. So they will make a lot of hp..

I had an entire kit with all the part numbers and all for ford to approve, a Windsor block for the Cleveland then and ford never submitted it to NHRA. I already had NHRA ok with it if Ford had submitted it as a replacement.
Scott


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