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That was a different car. The last time that I had this car at an NHRA event was Cecil County 2013.

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OK, you asked for it! Mull over these for a while.

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Thats a lot of pipe lol

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Beautiful! Nobody "thinks out of he box" like you Billy! Question, so header design with primary length and size will make a bigger difference in a lower horsepower like your 301 2V than lets say my 396/325 BBC? If it would be worth it down the road I would like to at least have equal length headers. Right now i will be using a Hooker street type header with just a modified collector.

Will Lamprecht
1965 I/SA Impala in progress

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Nice 180 degree job.

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That's quite the bed of snakes!

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I bet Billy could make some headers that would improve performance on that Ferrari!

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Billy good to see that your are still working on the Pontiac

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You ain't kidding'!

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Years ago, VSI (valve spring insert) had a similar wall poster. A valve was chasing a spring, with the spring exclaiming "No, no...not without a VSI"

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WOW..

After you get this done Billy....for under a $1000...

Now what would it cost to set a National Record?

Dan

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Ain't happening, Dan! Though I would never discourage anybody from setting a National Record, I've been there and done that and until NHRA decides to reward me for doing so (which they should), I don't need the EGO boost. A piece of paper and my name in the back of Dragster(so small that you need a magnifying glass to see it) just isn't reward enough. Besides, the person who wins class at Indy should be the Record Holder because that person is the "hitter" in the class.

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Dan, just for the (National) Record, if I were starting with a clean sheet, I would be building an "Under The Index for Under a Grand" using some kind of FFFord with a 302 2V in it. That could easily be an "Under the Record for Under 5 Grand" build.

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Things of beauty - I'm so jealous! Any chance on getting the dimensions?

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Good Point !
My Pure Stocker is always in development.
Just never set a Record so it would be a goal for me.

Have an opportunity to set 1/4 F/PS since it is wide open.
Just in D1 will have to be under hot weather conditions.

Got a nice Featherlight trailer and stopped driving to the races.
Now can tear down and make it back home.

Fixed up the 94 Caprice wagon to tow everything.
New trans, beefed up rear suspension, gears.
Installed a rear sway bar and for its weight will do well in Autocross.

Good to build a competitive racer for under a $1000.

Seems you cannot tow safely for "under" A LOT of money.

Dan

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Billy, I wonder what would happen if NHRA would reduce power factors on '70s 2-bbl engines of ALL manufacturers to the OEM hp rating? Since the majority of racers are GM fans, there has not been the mad rush to the 302 2-bbl combos like I thought there would be, but I will not comment more about that. There were as many '86 Chevy trucks built as 302 2-bbl Fords, if that is a statistic to ponder.

Of course, with NHRA's worshipping of the AHFS, something like that would never happen. Where's the fun?

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Dwight, this sounds like a good subject for it's own thread. I think that you have an excellent idea there for helping "underprivileged" and "entry level" racers get going. NHRA would have to rework it's AHFS to make it more reactive to the combos that wind up being accidently too soft though. A year between reviews is too long.

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Should anybody oppose such an idea?

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How about a report here? Headers help? Hurt ,etc ? Driver impressions?
That dam carburetor?

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Update please Billy,Good or Bad ?

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Geez, talk about ungrateful cars! I brought it home from Cecil 2 years ago and parked it in the field and when I went to use it, I had to put a new battery AND spark plugs in it! But, now that I think about it, the battery and plugs weren't new 2 years ago when I put them in.
At any rate, I had an "NHRA Newbie" in the car this weekend. Wayne is one of those fast street car guys so he's no stranger to racing, just to NHRA racing. The car seemed to like the headers and the dammed carb for the first 1/8th of the track but no matter how I jetted it it didn't want to run in high gear. I think that I'm getting into some kind of a float-drop issue(for lack of a better term) when it gets into high gear. It's not running out of gas but it's going dead lean to the point of lean misfiring. The 60' and 1/8th times were pretty good but no matter what I did, it was off at least 6 MPH. For the 1st rd, I raised the float much too high and it just didn't go anywhere.
Oh well, back to the drawing board!

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Its the cam :)

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Was just thinking that.The exhaust side is too good!

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I'm fighting this exact same problem and its frustrating. Changed springs, fuel system, float levels, big needles, C11 does help, but in the end Tina is right, its the camshaft. :) Now the trick is a balance of decent low end and acceptable high end. 11.60 @ 107 popping all the way ain't gonna work. Probably gonna give Comp a try and I'll let you know how it compares to the violent Bullet lobe.

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It's always the cam....................or the converter. Then again, maybe it's just me! I'll get it figgered out.

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It's not the converter!

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Went crazy recently with big cube Ford on the dyno couldn't get it rich enough. The cam was over scavenging,

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Have you checked the Sock in the Sending unit inside the gas tank?
Sometimes in old cars they get all gummed up and the sock breaks down and get sucked inside the tube !

Happened to my 1969 Galaxie XL with 429/360hp way back when.

Actually had a second problem, a cracked hose connecting the Sending Unit to the gas line.

Dan

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Good point, Dan. I had an old Camaro that I went through that with. I don't remember having the tank out of the car. It's worth a look!

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Thank You, Lee! I tell people that and they say I'm nuts!
With that being said, with the wacky heads on this car, even though I have a very small exhaust lobe in it, the new headers could be doing something similar. I might be smart to just try the original headers again.

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So, it's been 3 years and 8 months since I last had this poor old GP out at the track. That last day, the crank in the $200 short block broke and the car has become another place in my shop to sit stuff on (LOTS of stuff). I'm thinking of resurrecting the parts out of it and sticking them in something a little more presentable.
Is there any interest out there for me reviving this thread?

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Definitely, I love reading about your low buck projects

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Absolutely, revive the thread, you always have good stuff to read and think about.
Steve

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Yes Sir Billy

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Yes.

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We never stop learning, Billy! Keep those cards and letters coming!

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Yes sensai..........