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jmcarter 02-23-2020 09:24 AM

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Would be great to see you and Patsy at the Baby Gators if you can make it; it was an awesome event last year.

Larry Hill 02-24-2020 08:44 AM

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Maybe the Atlanta pts meet. The engine is at a stopping point, it holds water and we, Cooter has a tune in it. We have yet to get A to B, trans ratios (Joel has helped), converter flash, shift points, starting RPM, and shock settings, just to name a few.

Condensation in the valve covers seems like a lot to me, but zero water in the pan. The engine makes good power a little north 7000 RPM. After racing a 440 all these years that seems like a lot of RPM's. It sure sounds good on the dyno.

My job at the dyno was easy all I had to do was stay out of the way. Sid operated, Cooter did the tuning, and Shawn did most everything else except supervise. Supervision was left to the master, Mr. Jeff.

Two days of fun at the dyno, I just love it!

Larry Hill 02-26-2020 08:59 AM

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I will be fine tuning my push-rod instillation tool today. Failure was caused by push-rods being to large, rods are much bigger. I have to figure something out on the exhaust side, its real busy up top. You cant see anything without a scope.

Larry Hill 02-27-2020 08:26 AM

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What a day, nothing worked that would repeat with the exception of gravity. The bright spot is; its a solid roller so I will not have to pull the head to install a solid lifter for checking valve lift.

I'll try something different today.

Larry Hill 03-05-2020 09:34 AM

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Change filters, add oil, install engine and trans. One step closer.

Larry Hill 03-11-2020 08:39 AM

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I finally got the above post done.
I had some good reasons why it took so long. A lingering cold, and a Grandpa. Its fun being at the granddaughters Basketball, soccer, and volleyball games. I know people outside the states of Kentucky and Indiana do not Capitalize the word Basketball. I'm not sure what the penalty is in Indiana, but here in Kentucky it's not a felony but darn close.

Larry Hill 03-14-2020 08:11 AM

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I have drive train installed. I have different shaped bolts for engine mounts, and transmission mounts. Both had same size bolts, now head size and flange is different making it easier to assemble. Best thing about this installation is never having having to use the ill fitting CSR shield. I want to say more about CSR but I won't, you get the picture.

340Cuda 03-14-2020 10:31 AM

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Larry,

I apologize if I missed this earlier in this thread, but what did you use that fit better than the CSR.

I am not a big fan of CSR either.

Thanks,
Bill

Larry Hill 03-14-2020 10:51 AM

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TCI shields and a BFH. It ain't easy or fun adjusting stuff to make it fit. I don't think the knot on my left thumb will ever go away, missed swing of a four lbs hammer.

MR DERBY CITY 03-14-2020 11:56 AM

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Larry, its a shame that DUMBO is all dressed up , with no place to go.... I followed your build very closely....

Larry Hill 03-17-2020 08:08 AM

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Yesterday was "Backup Day", it involved having the backup harness to interchange quickly with the one in the car. I found out that Weather Pack connectors may look the same but will not plug in due to a difference in slotting. Bob Toy to the rescue, Thanks.

Talk about a monkey and a football, it had to be fun to watch with me and my hands and Weather Pack pins. I got it done, but should have watched You Tube.

Larry Hill 03-20-2020 07:45 AM

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Headers on the DP Challenger are evil on the even cylinder side. No room for my hands or wrenches, I do have a new 10mm universial socket comming.

Mike Gray 03-20-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 610379)
Headers on the DP Challenger are evil on the even cylinder side. No room for my hands or wrenches, I do have a new 10mm universial socket comming.

Have you ever tried to put headers on a FE powered Mustang? That's the definition of "evil" LOL

Larry Hill 03-20-2020 02:16 PM

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In 1970 on 428 CJ Mustang in the aparment gravel parking lot on a very warm summers day. I thought my neighbor, his car, and I were going to have to pull the engine to get it done. It is a chore.

The new trans shield is causing interferance with the O2 sensors. I have new stuff coming, SS 10* bungs, washers, and plugs. Just another day at the office.

Its hard work to make the car easy to work on. Did I say that right?

Keith 944 03-20-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 610400)
Its hard work to make the car easy to work on.

Yep that About sums it up! I’ve been doing that very thing ever since I built my cars. 😆

Larry Hill 03-22-2020 09:10 AM

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And then it hits you! With all the bendable, brakeable plastic, pulling the car in and out the trailer without damage is difficult. I never gave it much thought after watching Kevin Helms drive the new Challengers in and out of the trailers all those years and still does. It looked so easy, but not for me.......no room for me.

So now I have to make something to pull from the center of the car without being in the way of plastic removal. I'm so ready to say "Ta-Dah" and go test it.

Dyno 03-22-2020 01:32 PM

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Whatever you come up with, make two. I need the same. I think Lloyd has a hook through the front grill. Give him a call. Thanks, Dyno

Frank Castros 03-23-2020 09:25 AM

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Dumbo is a difficult creature, isn't he.

killintime6968 03-23-2020 02:11 PM

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Still in training to fly. LOL

Larry Hill 03-24-2020 07:32 AM

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Training wheels are more like it.

JHeath 03-24-2020 09:23 AM

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I would call Darren @ B&B, he may have a bracket that would attach to the k-member for pulling the car in. My car has this bracket from Watson Racing.

Larry Hill 03-24-2020 03:26 PM

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That sure look sturdy. Looks like you could pull a tank out when hooked to it and the car in reverse. Mine weighs less than 8 Oz. going down the track. My car always has a 300# gorilla in it. Not as strong but just as heavy.

Larry Hill 03-29-2020 09:03 AM

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Fine tuning a bunch of little stuff on the car. Lowering throttle return spring to keep it from rubbing on the air pan. Eliminating drag on secondary throttle linkage. Locating O2 bung placement on new collectors. Lookin and planning on the best way to install, if possible, an oil retention device that allows some serviceability. Almost ready to rescale the car. Installed trans temp gage. All of our gages are Classic Instruments and are they great looking. Classic Instruments has a "Stock Eliminator" water temp gage that goes from 40* to 220*.
I'm excited about the Water temp gage. I will be able to find out what the engine likes in the car at the starting line, 40,60,80 or what ever for class. Finding out what it likes is one thing being able to duplicate it is another. Maybe I could get some help from the Emmons brothers or California Car Cover. Those teams do a good job.

Frank Castros 03-29-2020 09:35 AM

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A Best Engineered Award in the making.

Larry Hill 03-29-2020 09:51 AM

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Not even in the same zip code. Best engineered stuff are works of art. My goal is will I be able to fix it between rounds.

Frank Castros 03-29-2020 05:35 PM

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Larry,
You're a humble man. What you're engineering is a real race car built to go rounds and credit is due to your vast experience and fine craftsmanship.
Kudos to you.

Mack Reeves 03-30-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 610683)
That sure look sturdy. Looks like you could pull a tank out when hooked to it and the car in reverse. Mine weighs less than 8 Oz. going down the track. My car always has a 300# gorilla in it. Not as strong but just as heavy.





Did you get your tow hook figured out. I will get a picture of mine and the way Timmy did it.. I think it is welded to the frame can't remember but will get a photo the next time I am in the garage and send it to you...

Mack Reeves 04-02-2020 10:42 AM

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Did you get your tow hook figured out. I will get a picture of mine and the way Timmy did it.. I think it is welded to the frame can't remember but will get a photo the next time I am in the garage and send it to you...

Hope this came thru. Also I have switched my wire rope for a 3/4” braded nylon rope. Works just as well and doesn’t mess up anything on the front end. Hope this helps. I also cannot drive my car into the trailer. Way too much Mack!!!!!

Larry Hill 04-03-2020 07:55 PM

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We got the car scaled thanks to Gary Jennings telling me what to do by phone. My son Chris helped in the process. Joey from Ray Skillman racing helped by phone and texting pictures. I think it might be ready to test all recording devices, two step, auto 1-2 shift. I still need to recheck a lot of stuff, where is my list?

Larry Hill 04-10-2020 06:38 PM

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Dumbo Lives! We got to smell some much needed smoke.

Rod Greene 04-11-2020 02:52 AM

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pics or it didn't happen.

Larry Hill 04-11-2020 08:17 AM

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I thought the video would have been up by now. As Jeff would say that is way above my pay grade.

Patsy tried to upload to photobucket but it would not load. I think its on facebook.

Larry Hill 04-14-2020 08:26 AM

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Update, yesterday was test drive day or so I thought. Add water, fuel, recheck trans fluid , pull car up to house shut it off and check for leaks. No hits ,no runs and no errors, I strap myself in hit the starter and nothing. Just another day at the office.

Larry Hill 04-15-2020 11:25 AM

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Broken solenoid

Rod Greene 04-16-2020 08:09 AM

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Great video on face book. Looks like it scared Chris

jmcarter 04-16-2020 08:46 AM

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Can someone share the video? I can't find it on FB

Larry Hill 04-17-2020 08:11 AM

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When I shift the car to high gear it seems to want to move right along. Those M W brakes work real well.

I drove 330 plus miles to have a set of shocks dynoed. Man are those things sensitive on adjustment. I think we now have a place to start from to sort the car out, I hope.

After we get the car back together, the real test will be figuring out what boards to make to load the car without damaging the plastic splitter.

denbreeden 04-17-2020 09:29 AM

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I have two race ramps to go under the trailer door then I put a 1" X 6" board halfway down the ramp to clear mine.

Dennis Breeden

Larry Hill 04-18-2020 04:11 PM

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Put the car on the lift after a little test drive just to check everything. Reinstall the shocks and changed the direction of the attachment bolts to make it easier to service. Had to shorten one 1/2'' x 20 NF bolt two threads or .100'' to get the type clearance I want. Rechecked differential gear oil it was low as expected, it was full. The missing oil went in the tubes to oil the wheel bearings.

Cut my hand on a long screw sticking out passed a RivNut, now they don't stick out anymore. I had one screw rubbing on a borrowed collector, it's fixed now.

I'm working on installing an air filter on the car. It always happens on the way to staging, I'm behind some one raising a cloud of dust, not their fault. So to make my engine last longer its going to have a filter for the air.

HP HUNTER 04-18-2020 08:48 PM

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Larry

Yac was telling me about your truck today, I had no idea. What front brake setup did run on it?


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