Lawsuit over cylinder heads
I came upon this when poking around on Google today:
https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/...ociation_et_al Seems other shops are named also. |
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Interesting............I would like to hear details.
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Any idea what he is suing everyone for?
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Maybe Jared Jordan can decipher this and shed some light on the great cylinder head suit of 2020......
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Possibly this had to do with the whole intake spacer rule? wasn't Johns name brought up on that rule a couple months ago?
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The modifications had been allowed for decades and Chevy engines were not the only ones affected. Mopar, Ford and other makes of engines that were also affected by the proposed rule change. |
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This is exactly what our sport doesn't need right now.
Everyone's laid off and NHRA has to defend a lawsuit related to stock / super stock? What a great time for them to say good bye guys. |
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Tim, you obviously do not have all the facts or information surrounding the suit and about the status of Mr. Gulius' business. Perhaps you should have left your comments to your original post.
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I won't speculate as to the source of the dispute. I think that'd be unethical of me. From the link provided, it looks like Mr. Gulius has filed a lawsuit against NHRA and several co-defendants. Their names are listed and I don't see the need to reiterate them here. From the list of filings, the case has been moved to federal court and there's a certain monetary standard involved before that occurs. If it goes anywhere, we'll all find out together.
Edit: I can't read the complaint, which would explain it all, because it requires opening an account I don't otherwise need, but I still don't think it'd be appropriate to comment. |
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All of the court documents relating to this case are available online for a fee. If anyone is interested in fact finding it can be done. I'm not interested enough to register and pay through the court system, though.
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You are a newbie to the class. Your 10.5 tire racing does not make you an expert in what is involved in Stock and Super Stock racing, especially to building engines for the class. The modifications in Super Stock cylinder heads in question have been accepted for years. As it has been said before, there is a big difference between those that put a lot of effort and money to go fast and those that do not want to work on their stuff and complain when others go fast. It also pertains not only to Chevy engines, but to other makes too. There is a lot more to the story that you are aware of and I believe all you are doing is fishing for information and details to create gossip. Like Jared Jordan stated earlier, which I commend him for, it is better to stay out of it and not get involved in something you do not have the knowledge about and not involved in. |
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Dale, there is a quote that says: "For every fact, there is an infinity of hypothesis" |
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I have some insights into NHRA - PLUS I am a accountant by education: If this Virus ends our racing for the year, I am concerned the NHRA organization may well be finished and done anyway. |
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Just my thoughts, observations, and opinions. IHRA survived for 5 to 7 years on potted meat, beanie weenies, and RC colas. NHRA won't last a year under the same conditions.
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Like Sean stated earlier, the problem with the posting is making comments without knowing all the facts of the case. By the way, I am very familiar with PACER and you just don't "stumble" into information or just falls on your lap. PACER is a legal search database and you must perform the search on a specific term, name or phrase. Therefore, my speculation is the search was performed based on statements made by others, rumor, casual talk or gossip without knowing the actual facts of the case. |
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It's fun to watch this, but kinda sad, too. Apparently, the collective memory of racers is short. See, I remember back to when ported heads weren't legal, and NHRA caught guys who had them. Were they punished? Nope. NHRA just made ported heads legal. And then, there were things like gas-ported pistons (formerly illegal, now legal), un-shrouded combustion chambers (formerly illegal, now legal), aftermarket blocks, cranks, rods, pistons, wrist pins, (all formerly illegal, now legal), "replacement" cylinder heads (formerly illegal, now legal), and on and on, and on. Super Stock bears no resemblance whatsoever to the class that existed when it came into being, decades ago, but there are very few who would say we should go back to those days. The class has continuously evolved, rightly or wrongly, and there has never been any turning back. John Gulius consciously pushed the envelope, because that's precisely what his customers wanted to buy... his mind, in addition to his hands. And he delivered, consistently. A shame now, that after all of "paper-tiger" actions of the NHRA over the years (some fair, some absolutely inexplicable) that an innovator, pioneer and BIG thinker in the class has to defend his decades-long reputation.
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It cost the Pro Stock truck guys cubic dollars to fight nhra. After a few years, it appears they recieved a generous settlement after an ugly fight. But those guys had huge investments to recoup and they had truck loads of dough and time to fight nhra. I don't know much about the issues here but the plaintiff(s) better have big bucks and probably better representation.
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I hope you guys can forgive a very old guy for not understanding what was ruled illegal about Mr Gulius’ heads? I have tried to read all this, but must have missed something.
Exactly what was ruled illegal about his Chevy Super Stock heads? Thank you! Ed |
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Anyone that has been in the Super Stock class world knows who John Gulius is because he has been building engines for a long time. Call it what it is no matter the way you paint it: Gossip and trying to find details about the lawsuit and of course, a Google search will show the latest related to his business. By the way, the filing of the lawsuit is indeed public information; the details are not unless you pay for access. |
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(That's all I'm going to say, because I don't race Super Stock) |
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