making the galaxie fly
 

Hey all, I am new to the forum and own a 64 Galaxie 500 coupe that I want to take Stock Eliminator racing. It has a 289/2bbl/3 spd. stick combination in a total no option chassis. Who are the best people to talk to about Ford small block class engines? Rich Groh is in my area, but there isn't any phone information for him. Thanx in advance for the suggestions.

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The quickest / fastest 289 in all the land (SS) is Kip Martin and he builds out of his own machine shop in Phoenix, AZ.

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352, 4bbl

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Thanks for the response from the both of you. What chassis is Kip running and what kind of times is he getting? The 352 sounds interesting, are they hard to find now?

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Actually Ray Scardelli's Probe is the baddest 289, its been some 9.70's i belive, I know its been a .89. He uses B&B Performance in the N.J. area.

the 352 with alum heads is GREAT combo, I would do that vs the SBF in your case



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Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

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If i remember correctly Kip ran just that combo back in the days(352/Galaxie) he is "Urraco" on this forum i believe!

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Back in the day Kip Martin and Jerry Pruitt had the "Whale Cars" flying -- Jerry's 64 Custom 300 stick car was faster than Kip's -- BTW NHRA liked this combination so much that they slapped 10 hp on it and both cars disappeared--My understanding is that the HP factor has been eliminated and the 352 4V is once again rated at 250 hp--a great combination --

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Now that the cats out of the bag great combo for SS/GT 1 day I would love to put 1 of these in an 87-93 mustang convertable! Big Block Mustang GT/LA.....!!!!

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there's a couple of built, but havent hit the track yet...................



Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

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Kip's is a '64 1/2 Mustang notch with the 289 / 225 / 210 HP. He holds the SS/L record:
SS/L 10.13 129.51 03/08/08 Kip Martin - Phoenix, AZ
'64 Ford Tucson, AZ
Look for quicker ET's in 2009 from Kip...

I looked at the 352 with another racer and it looked REALLY good. And I would agree with the others, for your boat the 352 would do very well.
Never thought about it as a SS/GT...wow! :eek:

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Jerry Pruitt (SS6035) Yakima, WA has an 83 Mustang GT/J that's been in storage for a few years --

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do you know how to get in contact with Jerry?


Stephen Johnson #2162
Horace Johnson #2167
SS/D 427 Ford Fairlane NHRA-IHRA

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Jerry is the GM at Steve Hahn's Performance Audi/VW in Yakima, WA 509-248-4780

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Hummm.. low compression and either a tiny 485 CFM Holley or a 520 CFM autolite carb, along with a heavy block and crank... dunno if it sounds all that good for 352 cubic inches, even at 250 HP.

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Bill, wake up, snap out of it!

Ford racers don't use factory parts! :p

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OK Bill, what do you think would be a good combo? And yeah, the secret's out, Ford folks don't use factory parts!
Anyway, are the 429-460 (385 series) in any way competetive at all? I see more FE's and small blocks running than anything else.

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Well you want to run stock so you can only choose the engines that actually came in a '64 Galaxie 500. The 429/460's have some variants that are excellent, but you can't use them. Unless you have a ton of money and can afford to build a 427, your pretty much stuck with the 352 at 250HP (258HP if you use the Edelbrock heads), or one of two 390 variations, one at 280HP (288HP with ed heads) and the other at 330HP (338 w/ed heads).

The 352 and low horse 390 are virtually identical except for displacement. They have the same heads, same intake, same lift cam and use the same Autolite carburetor. The 390 has a touch more compression, 10:1 instead of 9.3:1 due to less deck. It would probably cost exactly the same amount to build either one, so you would have to decide if the extra 38 cubic inches was worth the extra 30HP factor.

The 390/330HP engine gets you a 600 CFM Holley carb and a little more cam lift (0.439 vs 0.408) but carries a hefty 50HP penalty, which likely is way more than those additions are worth.

You could ask NHRA to take 30 HP off the 390/330 giving it a factored HP of 300 which might be a good combo. 20 HP for the carb and cam are more reasonable.

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Thanx for the insight Bill, and I guess the next question would be which variant of the Edelbrocks are legal. I am guessing the Performers and not the RPMs; but you have to run all the rest of the stock equipment, right?

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There is a specific edelbrock part number for the NHRA legal heads which is #60057.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ads/nhra.shtml

They are like the performer RPMs but have no additional touch-up or port work done to them. There is an NHRA logo stamped on them too.

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Also, the Edelbrock castings for the 352 & 390 have the smaller sized valves than the Edelbrock 428CJ heads use.